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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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I am in the minority here, but was done a long time ago. We were played. We were the backup prom date that didn’t get finally turned down until the few remaining prom tickets were almost sold out.

I was right there with you. It was very, very clear that he was looking for a P5, any P5 (Kansas? OSU?) and Tualne was his fallback. I'm just glad we can all vent for a half day and then this thread can hopefully die the rightful death it had coming about a month ago.

Unless FW and Windy continue to argue about Winston.

Which they no doubt will.


A) it is a discussion
B) It is not about Winston per se, but the offensive scheme

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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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I think we need to address our offensive scheme in the offseason. I think we’re having trouble attracting QBs because most QBs want to throw the ball 25-30 times a game. I’d like to see us go fast tempo more and throw the ball more (20-30 more offensive plays a game). It would help a lot in recruiting.


Michigan, Nebraska, Clemson, Oregon, Army, Navy, Ga Tech, Alabama, Wisconsin, Penn State, and probably many others are run first oriented. Hell Dak Prescott, Jameis Winston, and 180K all played in run first offenses.


Jameis threw for 7500 yards on 851 attempts in 2 years.


In a run first offense. We need better O line play to establish the run so we can pass


It was not a run first offense. The year they won the national title, they had 530 passing attempts and 440 rushing attempts.


Just because they had more passes does not mean it is not a pass run offense.


Oh my G-d. I watched all of their games, I know what kind of offense they ran. It was a pro-style offense. Without Jameis, they used the run more to set up the pass, but with Jameis, they looked pass first. I know you can never be wrong, but you're wrong on this one.


Pro style offenses are by definition run first philosophically.

I get your point, but going in Jameis did not know they would pass as much as they did with him.


Great, but they were a pass to set up the run offense with him. Under EJ Manuel they were 50/50 on run/pass and 100 of the rushing attempts were Manuel scrambling. It's not like they changed the offense to suit Jameis.


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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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Clemson QB is transferring to Missouri. In a way, I’m very happy with that.


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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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He should call up Dawson Odums now.

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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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He may end up playing FCS but I still bet against Southern just because. We live with our choices. I guess he could become a return specialist if he wants to stay at Mizzou.

Meanwhile it's ok with me if he comes to Willow Street as a PWO on an academic scholarship. Tulane will need a good scout team QB.


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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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FCS is his only choice if he ever wants to be a starting QB in college.

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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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FCS is his only choice if he ever wants to be a starting QB in college.

Ironically all the Ivies are FCS....

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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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I wish I could have placed a bet last year that Lindsey Scott would be a grad transfer before his eligibility was up at Missouri. Not sure anyone would have taken the other side...

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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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I posted this in the Kelly Bryant thread on the non-Tulane board, but I'm not sure whether this is funny or sad.


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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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How many years of eligibility will he have after he sits again next year? Clearly, the coaches dont think hes the future. Harvard, he could ne set for life at harvard


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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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to me its a sad story and Cautionary Tale for others. He listened to bad advice from people that should have known better. I'm convinced that with us he would have been our feature QB and right now would be preparing for his second Bowl in as many years. Still wish him the best.

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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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How many years of eligibility will he have after he sits again next year? Clearly, the coaches dont think hes the future. Harvard, he could ne set for life at harvard


He would have two years if he transferred to an FCS school or transferred as a grad transfer. If he doesn't want to go FCS and does not graduate before he enrolls at another school, he will have 1 year left. LG is right, he'll either be starting in or holding a clipboard in the Bayou Classic in the near future for Southern.

This kid has been one of the most easily swayed by conference status in the history of recruiting. He never really focused on what was good for him as a player or a student and passed up chances of a lifetime (to attend Harvard or Tulane and potentially start for 4 years). Someone had to sit the kid down and tell him that the odds were never good that he'd ever play in the NFL. He's 5'10, 220 and isn't lightening fast. He should have used college to do two things: get the best education possible and get on the field and enjoy the last 4 years of football. Maybe if the latter happened, he could have developed into someone who could have gotten a chance in an NFL training camp....but that will not happen. In that respect, I've got to give it up to Chase Fourcade. That kid understood that playing was important. Instead of signing with Maryland, he kept his word to Nicholls State and ended up a 4 year starter instead of a 5 year clipboard holder.

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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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Harvard, he could ne set for life at harvard

Didn't we once hear he was interested in some sort of agricultural major? Wondering how, or whether, Harvard would help him there. And at Harvard he'd accrue (tens of?) thousands in debt because they only have need-based financial aid, no athletic scholarships. Harvard is still Harvard in name and education, but it is no longer a guarantee of becoming rich as once imagined. There are many stories out there of Harvard grads struggling.


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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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Harvard, he could ne set for life at harvard

Didn't we once hear he was interested in some sort of agricultural major? Wondering how, or whether, Harvard would help him there. And at Harvard he'd accrue (tens of?) thousands in debt because they only have need-based financial aid, no athletic scholarships. Harvard is still Harvard in name and education, but it is no longer a guarantee of becoming rich as once imagined. There are many stories out there of Harvard grads struggling.

But need is defined rather broadly; unless his family is pretty wealthy, he wouldn't have a huge debt burden. Harvard's endowment is insanely massive.


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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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Harvard, he could ne set for life at harvard

Didn't we once hear he was interested in some sort of agricultural major? Wondering how, or whether, Harvard would help him there. And at Harvard he'd accrue (tens of?) thousands in debt because they only have need-based financial aid, no athletic scholarships. Harvard is still Harvard in name and education, but it is no longer a guarantee of becoming rich as once imagined. There are many stories out there of Harvard grads struggling.


Dude, he'd go to Harvard for cheap or free.

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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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Harvard, he could ne set for life at harvard

Didn't we once hear he was interested in some sort of agricultural major? Wondering how, or whether, Harvard would help him there. And at Harvard he'd accrue (tens of?) thousands in debt because they only have need-based financial aid, no athletic scholarships. Harvard is still Harvard in name and education, but it is no longer a guarantee of becoming rich as once imagined. There are many stories out there of Harvard grads struggling.


I believe that Cornell may have agriculture majors. I believe that it has an agreement with the State of New York under which it is the Ag school for the state.


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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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Harvard, he could ne set for life at harvard

Didn't we once hear he was interested in some sort of agricultural major? Wondering how, or whether, Harvard would help him there. And at Harvard he'd accrue (tens of?) thousands in debt because they only have need-based financial aid, no athletic scholarships. Harvard is still Harvard in name and education, but it is no longer a guarantee of becoming rich as once imagined. There are many stories out there of Harvard grads struggling.
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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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Harvard, he could ne set for life at harvard

Didn't we once hear he was interested in some sort of agricultural major? Wondering how, or whether, Harvard would help him there. And at Harvard he'd accrue (tens of?) thousands in debt because they only have need-based financial aid, no athletic scholarships. Harvard is still Harvard in name and education, but it is no longer a guarantee of becoming rich as once imagined. There are many stories out there of Harvard grads struggling.

But need is defined rather broadly; unless his family is pretty wealthy, he wouldn't have a huge debt burden. Harvard's endowment is insanely massive.


DING DING DING DING!!! Only rich people who don't belong in Harvard academically actually pay tuition at Harvard.

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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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I guess things have changed because I was from a middle class, maybe "lower" middle class family, and Yale recruited me hard, I did the interview and the essay and they accepted me, and they still wanted me to pay $12,000 a year to play basketball there, and that was 30 years ago.


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PeteRasche wrote:
I guess things have changed because I was from a middle class, maybe "lower" middle class family, and Yale recruited me hard, I did the interview and the essay and they accepted me, and they still wanted me to pay $12,000 a year to play basketball there, and that was 30 years ago.

Most of the Ivy endowments have grown substantially since then, and between then and now many of them (don't know about Yale, but for sure Harvard) basically stopped charging tuition for anyone other than the wealthy.


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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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Harvard, he could ne set for life at harvard

Didn't we once hear he was interested in some sort of agricultural major? Wondering how, or whether, Harvard would help him there. And at Harvard he'd accrue (tens of?) thousands in debt because they only have need-based financial aid, no athletic scholarships. Harvard is still Harvard in name and education, but it is no longer a guarantee of becoming rich as once imagined. There are many stories out there of Harvard grads struggling.


Dude, he'd go to Harvard for cheap or free.


Scott's father is an personal injury attorney.http://lindseyscottandassociates.com/

That's what I understand.

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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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Harvard, he could ne set for life at harvard

Didn't we once hear he was interested in some sort of agricultural major? Wondering how, or whether, Harvard would help him there. And at Harvard he'd accrue (tens of?) thousands in debt because they only have need-based financial aid, no athletic scholarships. Harvard is still Harvard in name and education, but it is no longer a guarantee of becoming rich as once imagined. There are many stories out there of Harvard grads struggling.


Dude, he'd go to Harvard for cheap or free.


Scott's father is an personal injury attorney.http://lindseyscottandassociates.com/

That's what I understand.

May very well still be under Harvard's limits for free or nearly so; plaintiff PI attorneys don't necessarily make all THAT much outside of the top few.


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 Post subject: Re: Lindsey Scott
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If an Ivy wants to give a student money, they'll do it. They have lots of ways around the athletic scholarship ban, if the student is important to them.


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If an Ivy wants to give a student money, they'll do it. They have lots of ways around the athletic scholarship ban, if the student is important to them.
Yep


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