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Houston scores their average, Tulane manages 17 against a defense giving up 34.4. 359 yards of offense, 140 coming in the 4th quarter
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So it goes. Season comes down to 60 minutes next saturday, again
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We laid an egg just like we do every time that there is a high profile/ make a statement game. Unfortunately, can’t say that I’m surprised. Still have a chance for a bowl.
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We need a QB
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Our tacking was atrocious and we played undisciplined. The offense gets really, really bad when we fall behind. I hope for better tackling on Saturday and for the defense to stay with their assignments
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I am not going to run down anyone here. Tulane played themselves into an outside shot at winnng a division championship and just could not keep it going tonight.

Next week, they have a shot at a winning conference record and a winning division record. This program is definitely making slow progress.

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WaveProf wrote:We need a QB
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I think its pretty clear that McMillan is competent. Not great, I will agree and say not even good, but competent. Our receivers are not open and don't make plays on the ball. Are they the problem? Do they practice run blocking too much and not enough of the passing game? Looking at our WR coaches bio it raves about how many running backs he coached and done well with :| . We have seen this for two years now. Our running game gets stuffed and the only pass plays we know how to call are slants, go routes down the sideline, outs and hitches. High school route trees. Speaking to other post, this offensive scheme, while better than CJ's, seems handicapped by the fact it has a simplistic passing game. RPOs are cool but they aren't a philosophical answer. Hoping, wishing, waiting for that one super duper dual threat qb that makes our dreams come true is a pathetic excuse for a plan.
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I'm very disappointed with how the game went last night. I thought we had put the blowouts behind us. Even in a loss, I expected us to be in the game until the end. In reality, Houston was just better than us. If we want a model of the kind of recruits we will need in order to truly contend for the conference title, we only need to look at what Houston threw out there against us last night on the offensive side of the ball.

As bad as the defense played, they carried the water for us the last three games and really for the entire season outside of OSU and Cinci. Sometimes a unit is going to have an off night and others have to step up. Whether from lack of talent or poor scheme, the offense was nowhere to be found last night when the defense needed them most. This was a game in which the offense should have been able to score almost at will. But like SMU, Tulsa, and to a lesser (but still noticeable) extent ECU, even when presented with weak defenses we simply don't have what it takes on that side of the ball right now.

We badly need to win next week if only for the extra practice. If seniors want to make a statement in their last home game, do to Navy next week what Houston did to us last night. Don't leave it close late. Don't let them have hope. Don't leave any doubt.
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Defense mailed it in after Kennedy got hurt. He was their rudder. The dbs, shenall and hall particularly, were God awful. Put it in the rear view and beat Navy!
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Poseidon—- having a Fritz worthy QB what allow us to do so many things more even with our other problems. Sure McMillan is serviceable. I hope he sticks around as an experienced back up next year. But we are never going to be able to use this offense effectively until Fritz Is able to recruit the right quarterback. To my mind that has been his greatest failure so far. Let us hope the USM Transfer is the real deal.
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That was a surreal experience. Almost like going back in time to the Toledo/CJ days. Was that the poorest D performance in the WF era? Maybe Tulsa in 2016? Tons of missed tackles by guys who used to miss tackles when CJ was coach but had tightened it up under WF. We made their mediocre RB look like Alvin Kamara. Their Carrot Top RB made us look silly. Their true frosh QB was just having a grand old time. Boy we haven't let anyone do this to us in a long time - it just doesn't fit the narrative of our 2018 D.

In my pre-game hype I thought the game wouldn't be too big for McMillan. WRONG.
Capt Obvious here: He was very poor. Erratic and missed open receivers (wide open 84 on 3rd and 2 down play that went to 5 and was deflected). He didn't manage the game well at all. He wasn't ready for prime time.

I guess I now know what USF and Memphis fans were feeling after they played us.

But I loved their O playcalling. Had us guessing the entire game. Found ways to get all weapons in play. In one game they completed two less passes to their TEs (6) than we have to Charles Jones all year (8).

If I'm a high school RB I would like to play in either TU's or Houston's system. If I'm a high school WR or TE why (other than an education) would I want to pick TU with our current system?

And Amare Jones could be great.
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WaveProf wrote:Poseidon—- having a Fritz worthy QB what allow us to do so many things more even with our other problems. Sure McMillan is serviceable. I hope he sticks around as an experienced back up next year. But we are never going to be able to use this offense effectively until Fritz Is able to recruit the right quarterback. To my mind that has been his greatest failure so far. Let us hope the USM Transfer is the real deal.
While I share your hope, he would be the 5th QB to start multiple games four years into the program. At some point it has to be the system. I have lost confidence in this system's ability to pass the football with any nuance.
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Rough night.

I even posted the wrong score. I just remember it was a lot more than us.
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WaveProf wrote:Poseidon—- having a Fritz worthy QB what allow us to do so many things more even with our other problems. Sure McMillan is serviceable. I hope he sticks around as an experienced back up next year. But we are never going to be able to use this offense effectively until Fritz Is able to recruit the right quarterback. To my mind that has been his greatest failure so far. Let us hope the USM Transfer is the real deal.
WF recruited Johnathan Brantley who could run this offense in his sleep. And we ran him out of town - or he ran himself out of town - when Banks showed up. He currently is starting at Eastern Illinois and has thrown 13 TDs with 1 INT.
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1401973 wrote:
WaveProf wrote:Poseidon—- having a Fritz worthy QB what allow us to do so many things more even with our other problems. Sure McMillan is serviceable. I hope he sticks around as an experienced back up next year. But we are never going to be able to use this offense effectively until Fritz Is able to recruit the right quarterback. To my mind that has been his greatest failure so far. Let us hope the USM Transfer is the real deal.
WF recruited Johnathan Brantley who could run this offense in his sleep. And we ran him out of town - or he ran himself out of town - when Banks showed up. He currently is starting at Eastern Illinois and has thrown 13 TDs with 1 INT.
At Eastern Illinois which is 3-7 and FCS.
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windywave wrote:
1401973 wrote:
WaveProf wrote:Poseidon—- having a Fritz worthy QB what allow us to do so many things more even with our other problems. Sure McMillan is serviceable. I hope he sticks around as an experienced back up next year. But we are never going to be able to use this offense effectively until Fritz Is able to recruit the right quarterback. To my mind that has been his greatest failure so far. Let us hope the USM Transfer is the real deal.
WF recruited Johnathan Brantley who could run this offense in his sleep. And we ran him out of town - or he ran himself out of town - when Banks showed up. He currently is starting at Eastern Illinois and has thrown 13 TDs with 1 INT.
At Eastern Illinois which is 3-7 and FCS.
In his defense EIU's defense looks shabby.
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Poseidon wrote:
windywave wrote:
1401973 wrote:
WaveProf wrote:Poseidon—- having a Fritz worthy QB what allow us to do so many things more even with our other problems. Sure McMillan is serviceable. I hope he sticks around as an experienced back up next year. But we are never going to be able to use this offense effectively until Fritz Is able to recruit the right quarterback. To my mind that has been his greatest failure so far. Let us hope the USM Transfer is the real deal.
WF recruited Johnathan Brantley who could run this offense in his sleep. And we ran him out of town - or he ran himself out of town - when Banks showed up. He currently is starting at Eastern Illinois and has thrown 13 TDs with 1 INT.
At Eastern Illinois which is 3-7 and FCS.
In his defense EIU's defense looks shabby.
He's playing against FCS defenses
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Poseidon wrote:
windywave wrote:
1401973 wrote:
WaveProf wrote:Poseidon—- having a Fritz worthy QB what allow us to do so many things more even with our other problems. Sure McMillan is serviceable. I hope he sticks around as an experienced back up next year. But we are never going to be able to use this offense effectively until Fritz Is able to recruit the right quarterback. To my mind that has been his greatest failure so far. Let us hope the USM Transfer is the real deal.
WF recruited Johnathan Brantley who could run this offense in his sleep. And we ran him out of town - or he ran himself out of town - when Banks showed up. He currently is starting at Eastern Illinois and has thrown 13 TDs with 1 INT.
At Eastern Illinois which is 3-7 and FCS.
In his defense EIU's defense looks shabby.
Without looking it up I think I remember they've lost a lot of shootouts.
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Brantley was an elusive runner and an inaccurate passer...that's not really the ingredient we're missing.
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Sometimes you just get your a** kicked. That was last night.

As someone who bailed on the season after the SMU game, then came skulking back after two straight wins, I'm not freaking out over this one.

If we beat Navy we will have improved over last year. I'll take that and be happy. Given our sorry history over the past 60 years (for the most part).

And boy were those tv announcers a couple of dumba**es.
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Thanks for the level headed thought. Of course you are right. Seeing how the D has played most of the year and the issues H was having with their D my expectations were (too) high and it was a hard fall.
Let's go get Navy.
And the ESPN 11th string announcers loved to yap and yap and yap. Painful.
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In their defense there wasn't much to say about the game on the field and they aren't really supposed to do long, awkward silences.
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ml wave wrote:Brantley was an elusive runner and an inaccurate passer...that's not really the ingredient we're missing.
Our running offense with Brantley would be much better. Ds would have to scheme for him, which they don't do now. His passing was inaccurate I agree, but Banks this year is around 51% and McMillan 47% - both inaccurate.
Is he the ultimate answer with the greatest combined skill set we are looking for? No. But he would be able to run this offense better than either Banks or McMillan. Neither of which had/has a clue how/when to keep and how/when to pitch.
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of the three AAC teams that have high powered offenses that by all rights should have annihilated us this year, we beat two of them.. I'm not dissatisfied with last night because of that.

What I am dissatisfied with are: 1 the play calling and personnel packages are still horrific. Twice we had Dauphine on the field for 4th and 1.. he barely got one and got horribly smoked on the other. Umm.. Darius Bradwell anyone? 2 the stupidity returned last night.. the offsides on the missed field goal really hurt... we go into the room only down 28-9 and D'Eriq King isn't coming back.. couple that with the idiot play call on 4th down (see above), and that was the game. The Defense mailed it in from there. 3 Houston was missing roughly 8 or so first stringers, and their 2nd stringers were better than our first stringers... that's not good. Yeah, recruiting has improved, but that kind of talent gap in our division should be alarming.
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Private Joker wrote:Sometimes you just get your a** kicked. That was last night.

As someone who bailed on the season after the SMU game, then came skulking back after two straight wins, I'm not freaking out over this one.

If we beat Navy we will have improved over last year. I'll take that and be happy. Given our sorry history over the past 60 years (for the most part).

And boy were those tv announcers a couple of dumba**es.


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