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http://www.nola.com/tulane/index.ssf/20 ... iver_index

maybe we will get the final rematch scheduled?

then a home and home after we actually make the leap!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:46 am 
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With dates against Auburn, Ole Miss, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee and Texas A&M remaining, an 8-4 finish feels like the ceiling for these Tigers.
8-4 Ceiling?? They're 4-2 right now, and with that upcoming schedule, they'll be lucky to finish 6-6.


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With dates against Auburn, Ole Miss, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee and Texas A&M remaining, an 8-4 finish feels like the ceiling for these Tigers.
8-4 Ceiling?? They're 4-2 right now, and with that upcoming schedule, they'll be lucky to finish 6-6.


Auburn and Bama are losses but they could win all the others.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:06 pm 
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With dates against Auburn, Ole Miss, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee and Texas A&M remaining, an 8-4 finish feels like the ceiling for these Tigers.
8-4 Ceiling?? They're 4-2 right now, and with that upcoming schedule, they'll be lucky to finish 6-6.


Auburn and Bama are losses but they could win all the others.

They could, but I've seen no signs that they will. Other than Ole Miss (who is putrid), there isn't another gimme on that schedule.


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Arkansas has been bad as has Tennessee so those are in play along with Ole Miss. I see 7-5.


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I said 6-6 because I figure they'll choke in one of the "easier" three, either Tennessee (who will put things together at least one random weekend, so why not LSU), or Arkansas (who plays up against LSU due to the "rivalry").


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:58 pm 
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The demise of LSU is always of interest in this state but I am particularly interested in Tulane getting better, we have seen a quantum leap so far this year from what we have seen in the recent past. Fritz obviously can assess talent given the freshmen that are playing (who were unknowns) and they will improve dramatically.

We have talent coming back and we need a another improved recruiting year or two and then, we really will be in the conversation. Right now - it seems like Fritz is energizing our Tulane Squad and Ed is not having the same effect on the LSU squad. Give us a couple of years! and we will really be in the conversation!

otherwise - they (LS WHO)could lose all the games for all that I care.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:03 pm 
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RI WAVE wrote:
http://www.nola.com/tulane/index.ssf/2017/10/is_tulane_the_best_football_te.html#incart_river_index

maybe we will get the final rematch scheduled?

then a home and home after we actually make the leap!


Jeff Duncan better watch his back writing an article like that. :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:23 pm 
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Following what RI said, I feel it could be a "perfect storm" for Tulane if we are visibly showing improvement and success at the same time that LSU is looking like a mess. If we continue to look good this year and make a bowl, and LSU does indeed stumble further, this upcoming recruiting season could get interesting, especially with respect to skill players who can really shine in our offense vs. the offensive disaster upriver.

Remember of course that they were a mess in the mid 90s when we went undefeated; had Bowden stuck around and kept winning, I suspect we'd have been able to pull better and better recruits then, possibly beating them out for at least a few per year. But Bowden left. However, unlike then, I think Fritz is sticking around if things really get good.


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Following what RI said, I feel it could be a "perfect storm" for Tulane if we are visibly showing improvement and success at the same time that LSU is looking like a mess. If we continue to look good this year and make a bowl, and LSU does indeed stumble further, this upcoming recruiting season could get interesting, especially with respect to skill players who can really shine in our offense vs. the offensive disaster upriver.

Remember of course that they were a mess in the mid 90s when we went undefeated; had Bowden stuck around and kept winning, I suspect we'd have been able to pull better and better recruits then, possibly beating them out for at least a few per year. But Bowden left. However, unlike then, I think Fritz is sticking around if things really get good.


It continues to annoy me that many of the years in which we haven't played LSU in football are when they fielded sub-par teams :xmad:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:20 pm 
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To steal from the best college football coach in history: this article is poison to TU players...rat poison.

Cheap provocation by Duncan.

Focus men.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:40 pm 
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Duncan’s audience isn’t (and shouldn’t be) the players. Neither is that our audience

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go ask Saban or WF if this rat poison doesn't get to the players no matter the audience.

This idiotic article prompts my first take on the FIU game: Coaches have a challenge on their hands this week to keep the focus, intensity, chipiness, etc and to avoid any of the meaningless noise that's out there. This is where player leadership is also critical.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:07 pm 
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true but the players kept their focus last week even though they were facing an approaching Hurricane, a start time that changed 3(?) times and a "Big Game" the likes of which Tulane teams have been known to fold like cheap chairs (in the past). Given that some article is small potatoes, IMO.

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go ask Saban or WF if this rat poison doesn't get to the players no matter the audience.
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I'm sure it does. But that shouldn't change Duncan's (or our) behavior one way or the other.


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This idiotic article prompts my first take on the FIU game: Coaches have a challenge on their hands this week to keep the focus, intensity, chipiness, etc and to avoid any of the meaningless noise that's out there. This is where player leadership is also critical.

this i agree with

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don't take it from me go watch Nicky's post game tirade. The poison helped distract a team loaded with 50 5 star studs...but no biggie for us?


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PeteRasche wrote:
Following what RI said, I feel it could be a "perfect storm" for Tulane if we are visibly showing improvement and success at the same time that LSU is looking like a mess. If we continue to look good this year and make a bowl, and LSU does indeed stumble further, this upcoming recruiting season could get interesting, especially with respect to skill players who can really shine in our offense vs. the offensive disaster upriver.

We currently recruit 2 and 3 levels below LSU. If LSU falters, we won't be the biggest direct beneficiary.
If we can recruit 1-2 levels below where they are now, we'd be set.

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Following what RI said, I feel it could be a "perfect storm" for Tulane if we are visibly showing improvement and success at the same time that LSU is looking like a mess. If we continue to look good this year and make a bowl, and LSU does indeed stumble further, this upcoming recruiting season could get interesting, especially with respect to skill players who can really shine in our offense vs. the offensive disaster upriver.

We currently recruit 2 and 3 levels below LSU. If LSU falters, we won't be the biggest direct beneficiary.
If we can recruit 1-2 levels below where they are now, we'd be set.


Doesn't have to be that way and (for periods of time) used to not be that way. Things can change in recruiting in a season or two. The key is to get that breakthrough recruit or two, then build on it, and then build on that. I think partially because the local media has been so quick to dismiss Tulane's chances of building a winner, it has been easier for us to get higher rated players from other areas, but that needs to change and appears to be changing. An obstacle now is this whole P-whatever and G-whatever rubbish. But our conference has shown the ability to get its teams in the big bowls when they win.


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With dates against Auburn, Ole Miss, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee and Texas A&M remaining, an 8-4 finish feels like the ceiling for these Tigers.
8-4 Ceiling?? They're 4-2 right now, and with that upcoming schedule, they'll be lucky to finish 6-6.


Auburn and Bama are losses but they could win all the others.

I agree. The 4 others are (not sure the order) TX A&M, Arkansas, Ole Miss and Tennessee. It would not surprise me to see them win this week either. But I do hope they talk trash to Alabama while putting new twists on the jet sweep during the bye week.

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Wavefan wrote:
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PeteRasche wrote:
Following what RI said, I feel it could be a "perfect storm" for Tulane if we are visibly showing improvement and success at the same time that LSU is looking like a mess. If we continue to look good this year and make a bowl, and LSU does indeed stumble further, this upcoming recruiting season could get interesting, especially with respect to skill players who can really shine in our offense vs. the offensive disaster upriver.

We currently recruit 2 and 3 levels below LSU. If LSU falters, we won't be the biggest direct beneficiary.
If we can recruit 1-2 levels below where they are now, we'd be set.


Doesn't have to be that way and (for periods of time) used to not be that way. Things can change in recruiting in a season or two. The key is to get that breakthrough recruit or two, then build on it, and then build on that. I think partially because the local media has been so quick to dismiss Tulane's chances of building a winner, it has been easier for us to get higher rated players from other areas, but that needs to change and appears to be changing. An obstacle now is this whole P-whatever and G-whatever rubbish. But our conference has shown the ability to get its teams in the big bowls when they win.


Right, and its not about getting 4 and 5 stars but rat her getting the three stars like duke riley, and lindsey scott who are one the fence.

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Poseidon wrote:
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PeteRasche wrote:
Following what RI said, I feel it could be a "perfect storm" for Tulane if we are visibly showing improvement and success at the same time that LSU is looking like a mess. If we continue to look good this year and make a bowl, and LSU does indeed stumble further, this upcoming recruiting season could get interesting, especially with respect to skill players who can really shine in our offense vs. the offensive disaster upriver.

We currently recruit 2 and 3 levels below LSU. If LSU falters, we won't be the biggest direct beneficiary.
If we can recruit 1-2 levels below where they are now, we'd be set.


Doesn't have to be that way and (for periods of time) used to not be that way. Things can change in recruiting in a season or two. The key is to get that breakthrough recruit or two, then build on it, and then build on that. I think partially because the local media has been so quick to dismiss Tulane's chances of building a winner, it has been easier for us to get higher rated players from other areas, but that needs to change and appears to be changing. An obstacle now is this whole P-whatever and G-whatever rubbish. But our conference has shown the ability to get its teams in the big bowls when they win.


Right, and its not about getting 4 and 5 stars but rat her getting the three stars like duke riley, and lindsey scott who are one the fence.

That's the point... Where we've always been befuddled (yet, as they are teenagers, we can only shrug), when kids choose to sit on the bench at LSU rather than likely starting and possibly being a star at Tulane, if LSU stays down and we continue to rise, sitting on their bench won't look as desirable any more.


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Truth is most of those guys have ended up as starters there. It has taken them a while but they reach their goal. However I agree that as we build we'll look more attractive and hopefully they would rather come here and start for 3 or 4 years rather than one at LSU.


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We've gotten 1 recruit that LSU wanted in 20 years; you have to go back to the 80s when we would get a few a year from them. There are many reasons - the P#, the media, our own tolerance for (if not affirmative embracing of) mediocrity after Bowden left, etc.
We need to get them from the Ole Miss', Arizona State, even Kansas, and hold our own against ACC privates in Ga and Fla.

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waverider wrote:
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With dates against Auburn, Ole Miss, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee and Texas A&M remaining, an 8-4 finish feels like the ceiling for these Tigers.
8-4 Ceiling?? They're 4-2 right now, and with that upcoming schedule, they'll be lucky to finish 6-6.


Auburn and Bama are losses but they could win all the others.

I agree. The 4 others are (not sure the order) TX A&M, Arkansas, Ole Miss and Tennessee. It would not surprise me to see them win this week either. But I do hope they talk trash to Alabama while putting new twists on the jet sweep during the bye week.

In the land of Bama and the 13 dwarves, any of these increasingly mediocre teams could beat any of the others.


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