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I missed everything because I had previously committed to officiating 4 successive peewee games. Looks like I had more fun.
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Re: UAB 31 - Tulane 24
Heh. We were all saying these punts on the opponents side of the field are crazy and he should show some balls and go for it. As noted above we fumbled and gave up what could be the winning score. His instinct was to punt. If message board fans aren’t right, who can he trust?!?Rotorooter wrote:...and play conservatively...
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Re: UAB 31 - Tulane 24
Wise choiceTUPF wrote:I missed everything because I had previously committed to officiating 4 successive peewee games. Looks like I had more fun.
Re: Face It, We Are a Lower Level CUSA Team
GSx wrote:That's just utterly ridiculous. We make a bowl easily the last 3 years, probably 5 of the last 6 in C-USA.tjtlja wrote:The past three years we would have finished in the bottom third of CUSA. Really no progress. We will be 1-5 very soon. No use even paying attention the next two weeks. We don’t belong in the AAC. Just don’t belong.
Why can't we run a modern college offense? This offense is ridiculous when you don't run the option with it...Let's put 3 in the pass patterns ...it's Price/Toldeoish.
And this staff is way too FCS, way too insular.
I knew we were in trouble when they are doing body surfing after beating Nicholls State.
What in the world makes you think we would win in CUSA. We got our butts kicked by FIU and UAB the past two years. Today we were outgained 449 to 355 by a school that re-started their program last year. That’s just utterly ridiculous is ridiculous. We are 0-2 against CUSA teams the past two years.
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Re: Face It, We Are a Lower Level CUSA Team
Our final season in CUSA we went 5-3 in conference play. I am positive that last years team was better than that 2013 team, equal to them at worst.tjtlja wrote:GSx wrote:That's just utterly ridiculous. We make a bowl easily the last 3 years, probably 5 of the last 6 in C-USA.tjtlja wrote:The past three years we would have finished in the bottom third of CUSA. Really no progress. We will be 1-5 very soon. No use even paying attention the next two weeks. We don’t belong in the AAC. Just don’t belong.
Why can't we run a modern college offense? This offense is ridiculous when you don't run the option with it...Let's put 3 in the pass patterns ...it's Price/Toldeoish.
And this staff is way too FCS, way too insular.
I knew we were in trouble when they are doing body surfing after beating Nicholls State.
What in the world makes you think we would win in CUSA. We got our butts kicked by FIU and UAB the past two years. Today we were outgained 449 to 355 by a school that re-started their program last year. That’s just utterly ridiculous is ridiculous. We are 0-2 against CUSA teams the past two years.
Re: Face It, We Are a Lower Level CUSA Team
We got our butts kicked by FIU. Does anyone really believe we are better than La Tech, FIU, FAU, USM, Western Ky, UAB, North Texas, Middle TN, Rice, UTSA, or Marshall. What would this be based on, a feeling? If our schedule had Old Dominion, UNCC, and UTEP on it, perhaps. We may be better than some of these teams, but the spread on most of these games would be less than a TD. And to win the close ones, you need a QB. I think an argument can be made that we lose a lot of these games. And the two chances we have had against CUSA teams, we have bombed. Today, we were fortunate the difference wasn’t 20 or more. Some of our fans sound a lot like our players.visualmagic wrote:Our final season in CUSA we went 5-3 in conference play. I am positive that last years team was better than that 2013 team, equal to them at worst.tjtlja wrote:GSx wrote:That's just utterly ridiculous. We make a bowl easily the last 3 years, probably 5 of the last 6 in C-USA.tjtlja wrote:The past three years we would have finished in the bottom third of CUSA. Really no progress. We will be 1-5 very soon. No use even paying attention the next two weeks. We don’t belong in the AAC. Just don’t belong.
Why can't we run a modern college offense? This offense is ridiculous when you don't run the option with it...Let's put 3 in the pass patterns ...it's Price/Toldeoish.
And this staff is way too FCS, way too insular.
I knew we were in trouble when they are doing body surfing after beating Nicholls State.
What in the world makes you think we would win in CUSA. We got our butts kicked by FIU and UAB the past two years. Today we were outgained 449 to 355 by a school that re-started their program last year. That’s just utterly ridiculous is ridiculous. We are 0-2 against CUSA teams the past two years.
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Re: UAB 31 - Tulane 24
ProcessOGSB wrote:Heh. We were all saying these punts on the opponents side of the field are crazy and he should show some balls and go for it. As noted above we fumbled and gave up what could be the winning score. His instinct was to punt. If message board fans aren’t right, who can he trust?!?Rotorooter wrote:...and play conservatively...
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Re: UAB 31 - Tulane 24
I don’t trust results anymore.gerryb323 wrote:ProcessOGSB wrote:Heh. We were all saying these punts on the opponents side of the field are crazy and he should show some balls and go for it. As noted above we fumbled and gave up what could be the winning score. His instinct was to punt. If message board fans aren’t right, who can he trust?!?Rotorooter wrote:...and play conservatively...
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Re: Face It, We Are a Lower Level CUSA Team
USM lost at home to ULM as a 5.5 point favorite, I hope we're better than them. W Kentucky lost at home to Maine as a 10 pt favorite.tjtlja wrote:We got our butts kicked by FIU. Does anyone really believe we are better than La Tech, FIU, FAU, USM, Western Ky, UAB, North Texas, Middle TN, Rice, UTSA, or Marshall. What would this be based on, a feeling? If our schedule had Old Dominion, UNCC, and UTEP on it, perhaps. We may be better than some of these teams, but the spread on most of these games would be less than a TD. And to win the close ones, you need a QB. I think an argument can be made that we lose a lot of these games. And the two chances we have had against CUSA teams, we have bombed. Today, we were fortunate the difference wasn’t 20 or more. Some of our fans sound a lot like our players.visualmagic wrote:Our final season in CUSA we went 5-3 in conference play. I am positive that last years team was better than that 2013 team, equal to them at worst.tjtlja wrote:GSx wrote:That's just utterly ridiculous. We make a bowl easily the last 3 years, probably 5 of the last 6 in C-USA.tjtlja wrote:The past three years we would have finished in the bottom third of CUSA. Really no progress. We will be 1-5 very soon. No use even paying attention the next two weeks. We don’t belong in the AAC. Just don’t belong.
Why can't we run a modern college offense? This offense is ridiculous when you don't run the option with it...Let's put 3 in the pass patterns ...it's Price/Toldeoish.
And this staff is way too FCS, way too insular.
I knew we were in trouble when they are doing body surfing after beating Nicholls State.
What in the world makes you think we would win in CUSA. We got our butts kicked by FIU and UAB the past two years. Today we were outgained 449 to 355 by a school that re-started their program last year. That’s just utterly ridiculous is ridiculous. We are 0-2 against CUSA teams the past two years.
Prairie View A&M took Rice to the wire, Hawaii beat Rice by 2 TDs and UH beat Rice by 18.
UTSA is awful. I could keep going but I won't for several reasons.
We unfortunately wouldn't be the best team in CUSA with our current roster and coaches but yes we would win 7-8 games a year. Not that this is anything to be proud of but
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That's why you trust the process. You realize I'm saying process over resultsOGSB wrote:I don’t trust results anymore.gerryb323 wrote:ProcessOGSB wrote:Heh. We were all saying these punts on the opponents side of the field are crazy and he should show some balls and go for it. As noted above we fumbled and gave up what could be the winning score. His instinct was to punt. If message board fans aren’t right, who can he trust?!?Rotorooter wrote:...and play conservatively...
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Re: UAB 31 - Tulane 24
I don’t trust that anymore either.gerryb323 wrote:That's why you trust the process. You realize I'm saying process over resultsOGSB wrote:I don’t trust results anymore.gerryb323 wrote:ProcessOGSB wrote:Heh. We were all saying these punts on the opponents side of the field are crazy and he should show some balls and go for it. As noted above we fumbled and gave up what could be the winning score. His instinct was to punt. If message board fans aren’t right, who can he trust?!?Rotorooter wrote:...and play conservatively...
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Re: Face It, We Are a Lower Level CUSA Team
UAB got blown out by Coastal Carolina last week. We would not win 7-8 games.visualmagic wrote:USM lost at home to ULM as a 5.5 point favorite, I hope we're better than them. W Kentucky lost at home to Maine as a 10 pt favorite.tjtlja wrote:We got our butts kicked by FIU. Does anyone really believe we are better than La Tech, FIU, FAU, USM, Western Ky, UAB, North Texas, Middle TN, Rice, UTSA, or Marshall. What would this be based on, a feeling? If our schedule had Old Dominion, UNCC, and UTEP on it, perhaps. We may be better than some of these teams, but the spread on most of these games would be less than a TD. And to win the close ones, you need a QB. I think an argument can be made that we lose a lot of these games. And the two chances we have had against CUSA teams, we have bombed. Today, we were fortunate the difference wasn’t 20 or more. Some of our fans sound a lot like our players.visualmagic wrote:Our final season in CUSA we went 5-3 in conference play. I am positive that last years team was better than that 2013 team, equal to them at worst.tjtlja wrote:GSx wrote:That's just utterly ridiculous. We make a bowl easily the last 3 years, probably 5 of the last 6 in C-USA.tjtlja wrote:The past three years we would have finished in the bottom third of CUSA. Really no progress. We will be 1-5 very soon. No use even paying attention the next two weeks. We don’t belong in the AAC. Just don’t belong.
Why can't we run a modern college offense? This offense is ridiculous when you don't run the option with it...Let's put 3 in the pass patterns ...it's Price/Toldeoish.
And this staff is way too FCS, way too insular.
I knew we were in trouble when they are doing body surfing after beating Nicholls State.
What in the world makes you think we would win in CUSA. We got our butts kicked by FIU and UAB the past two years. Today we were outgained 449 to 355 by a school that re-started their program last year. That’s just utterly ridiculous is ridiculous. We are 0-2 against CUSA teams the past two years.
Prairie View A&M took Rice to the wire, Hawaii beat Rice by 2 TDs and UH beat Rice by 18.
UTSA is awful. I could keep going but I won't for several reasons.
We unfortunately wouldn't be the best team in CUSA with our current roster and coaches but yes we would win 7-8 games a year. Not that this is anything to be proud of but
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Re: UAB 31 - Tulane 24
https://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans ... 6c5a0.htmlThe inability to make a play in those critical moments left Tulane with the same empty feeling it has experienced time after time. On this day, the Green Wave walked off the field a 31-24 loser. The details change, but the result remains remarkably consistent.
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Re: UAB 31 - Tulane 24
As a Tulane fan for the last 55 years I have been convinced for the last several years that Tulane football will never get better till the people than run Tulane are more embarrassed by these losses than they are proud of our SAT scores and graduation rates. Tulane has proven over the last 68 years that it incapable of having both a good football program and good academics. Many schools better academically than Tulane has found a way to have both. We can blame the head coach, defensive and offensive coaches, Athletic Directors. players, fans .etc. but the biggest problem has always been Tulane's unrealistic policy regarding athletics and academics. It has not changed much since 1950 and I doubt that it will change in the future. Coach Fritz has turned losing programs with in 2 years everywhere he has been . Why do you think he hasn't been able to do it here. Before a problem can be solved, you have to identify it and Tulane has been unwilling to admit that it is the problem. rjc
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rjc wrote:As a Tulane fan for the last 55 years I have been convinced for the last several years that Tulane football will never get better till the people than run Tulane are more embarrassed by these losses than they are proud of our SAT scores and graduation rates. Tulane has proven over the last 68 years that it incapable of having both a good football program and good academics. Many schools better academically than Tulane has found a way to have both. We can blame the head coach, defensive and offensive coaches, Athletic Directors. players, fans .etc. but the biggest problem has always been Tulane's unrealistic policy regarding athletics and academics. It has not changed much since 1950 and I doubt that it will change in the future. Coach Fritz has turned losing programs with in 2 years everywhere he has been . Why do you think he hasn't been able to do it here. Before a problem can be solved, you have to identify it and Tulane has been unwilling to admit that it is the problem. rjc
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Re: Face It, We Are a Lower Level CUSA Team
visualmagic wrote:USM lost at home to ULM as a 5.5 point favorite, I hope we're better than them. W Kentucky lost at home to Maine as a 10 pt favorite.tjtlja wrote:We got our butts kicked by FIU. Does anyone really believe we are better than La Tech, FIU, FAU, USM, Western Ky, UAB, North Texas, Middle TN, Rice, UTSA, or Marshall. What would this be based on, a feeling? If our schedule had Old Dominion, UNCC, and UTEP on it, perhaps. We may be better than some of these teams, but the spread on most of these games would be less than a TD. And to win the close ones, you need a QB. I think an argument can be made that we lose a lot of these games. And the two chances we have had against CUSA teams, we have bombed. Today, we were fortunate the difference wasn’t 20 or more. Some of our fans sound a lot like our players.visualmagic wrote:Our final season in CUSA we went 5-3 in conference play. I am positive that last years team was better than that 2013 team, equal to them at worst.tjtlja wrote:GSx wrote:That's just utterly ridiculous. We make a bowl easily the last 3 years, probably 5 of the last 6 in C-USA.tjtlja wrote:The past three years we would have finished in the bottom third of CUSA. Really no progress. We will be 1-5 very soon. No use even paying attention the next two weeks. We don’t belong in the AAC. Just don’t belong.
Why can't we run a modern college offense? This offense is ridiculous when you don't run the option with it...Let's put 3 in the pass patterns ...it's Price/Toldeoish.
And this staff is way too FCS, way too insular.
I knew we were in trouble when they are doing body surfing after beating Nicholls State.
What in the world makes you think we would win in CUSA. We got our butts kicked by FIU and UAB the past two years. Today we were outgained 449 to 355 by a school that re-started their program last year. That’s just utterly ridiculous is ridiculous. We are 0-2 against CUSA teams the past two years.
Prairie View A&M took Rice to the wire, Hawaii beat Rice by 2 TDs and UH beat Rice by 18.
UTSA is awful. I could keep going but I won't for several reasons.
We unfortunately wouldn't be the best team in CUSA with our current roster and coaches but yes we would win 7-8 games a year. Not that this is anything to be proud of but
1. We have never had much success against USM. Can see this going either way.
2. W. Ky beating Louisville in Louisville by 4 with 4 minutes to go.
3. Rice was tied late with Houston in the 3rd qtr before they pulled away.
4. UTSA beat us in San Antonio several years ago when they were terrible.
5. Most importantly, we are not very good. To think we are so much better than CUSA teams sounds like our players this past week. And again, a CUSA team beats us. The proof is on the field.
6. Do you think we beat Coastal Carolina? If so, why?
Re: UAB 31 - Tulane 24
rjc wrote:As a Tulane fan for the last 55 years I have been convinced for the last several years that Tulane football will never get better till the people than run Tulane are more embarrassed by these losses than they are proud of our SAT scores and graduation rates. Tulane has proven over the last 68 years that it incapable of having both a good football program and good academics. Many schools better academically than Tulane has found a way to have both. We can blame the head coach, defensive and offensive coaches, Athletic Directors. players, fans .etc. but the biggest problem has always been Tulane's unrealistic policy regarding athletics and academics. It has not changed much since 1950 and I doubt that it will change in the future. Coach Fritz has turned losing programs with in 2 years everywhere he has been . Why do you think he hasn't been able to do it here. Before a problem can be solved, you have to identify it and Tulane has been unwilling to admit that it is the problem. rjc
It is an institutional problem across the board, no doubt.
But don’t give Fritz a complete pass. He has not recruited a QB other than Brantley that fits his scheme and that is on him. If we have just some better execution on offense, we are sitting at 3-0. And drilling Banks not to get injured has really hampered his development. This is on Fritz.
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I’m not really interested in getting into arguments about hypotheticals, I’ll just say we were an inch away from 6-6 in the AAC last year. We’d have won 8 in CUSA with last years team.
This year? I don’t know, it’s early but obviously we don’t look good.
This year? I don’t know, it’s early but obviously we don’t look good.
Re: UAB 31 - Tulane 24
I agree but read the preseason threads. We ALL thought keeping Banks uninjured was key.tjtlja wrote:rjc wrote:As a Tulane fan for the last 55 years I have been convinced for the last several years that Tulane football will never get better till the people than run Tulane are more embarrassed by these losses than they are proud of our SAT scores and graduation rates. Tulane has proven over the last 68 years that it incapable of having both a good football program and good academics. Many schools better academically than Tulane has found a way to have both. We can blame the head coach, defensive and offensive coaches, Athletic Directors. players, fans .etc. but the biggest problem has always been Tulane's unrealistic policy regarding athletics and academics. It has not changed much since 1950 and I doubt that it will change in the future. Coach Fritz has turned losing programs with in 2 years everywhere he has been . Why do you think he hasn't been able to do it here. Before a problem can be solved, you have to identify it and Tulane has been unwilling to admit that it is the problem. rjc
It is an institutional problem across the board, no doubt.
But don’t give Fritz a complete pass. He has not recruited a QB other than Brantley that fits his scheme and that is on him. If we have just some better execution on offense, we are sitting at 3-0. And drilling Banks not to get injured has really hampered his development. This is on Fritz.
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You are correct, that was the theme all off season. What we all know now, it is time to unwind this thinking.
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Re: UAB 31 - Tulane 24
One theme during the off-season was that we were inches away from a bowl, so with a little improvement we could get there. Not only have we not improved at all, but we look worse than 2017. Still making the same crucial mistakes that are costing us games. Still getting whooped up front despite having a veteran O line. Still can't finish out games. When will we ever get better?
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Re: UAB 31 - Tulane 24
In the post game interview CWF sounded distraught and almost too downbeaten. The rest of the season will be the test for him. If he can't somehow find the fire to put an identity to this team then it's all over for him. I don't necessarily mean at Tulane. I can see 5-7, maybe 6-6, and we'll keep the course with glimmers of hope, but if he can't figure out away to put a stamp on they team then he's professionally done. He probably can keep coaching at Tulane with 6-6 forever, it he'd be a wasted coach.
I think the idea of an RPO, pass option, or even triple option aren't bad ideas and could work here. However we have no read and no option in what we have been doing since CWF got here. If it's the players, that's one thing, but I think we have enough players to be competitive in the conference. I think we either have have one player who can't do what the coach wants to do, or a coach that's too timid to do what he wants to do because of one player. I know which is worse, the question is whether CWF does?
I think the idea of an RPO, pass option, or even triple option aren't bad ideas and could work here. However we have no read and no option in what we have been doing since CWF got here. If it's the players, that's one thing, but I think we have enough players to be competitive in the conference. I think we either have have one player who can't do what the coach wants to do, or a coach that's too timid to do what he wants to do because of one player. I know which is worse, the question is whether CWF does?
Re: UAB 31 - Tulane 24
Coach Fritz is making the same mistake that Scelfo,, Toledo, and CJ did. They all tried to run a offense that they don't have the personel to do. All tried to run a offense that requires really good linemen that we aren't close to having. RR realized that and came up with scheme that allowed us to be successful dispite limited ability in our offensive linemen. Not one of the above mentioned coaches has made any effort to copy RR's offense . Tulane should use the plan that Dr. Kelly used to rebuild the basketball program after it was disbanded . Perry Clark was given a free hand to do what was required to get the program going again. He did it with class and success and got us to national prominence in a short time. The same would have to be done in football if the program is to survive. rjc
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The following is not going to be a surprise to anyone here. Right now we re a dispondent group of fans. There have been so few glimmers of light in our lifetime, and that fact takes a toll. We are not bad people, or bad fans. We have had probably two things that brought us down this road. We were either born/raised here and wanted to support the hometown team or we were born into a family that had at least one parent who got his/her highest education @ Tulane. We jaw at each other only because we are so desperate to have a winner, and we dispute the methods to get that accomplished. In the final analysis, we need to stick together whatever the final scoreboard shows, but all of us have not yet learned that fact, me included. And just to reiterate what I said in a previous thread, be nice. And I know that is not always easy when the scoreboard brings an "L",,,again. We just need to respect each other for what we all are. Humans. Otherwise it can be and ugly world.
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