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 Post subject: Mid Season Grades
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:31 am 
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WF/Coaching: D
You are what your record is. Team typically ready to play each week (UAB so so). He is ultimately responsible for poor offensive game planning and player participation (Huderson v others) which is dooming his season (the first obviously more important).
OL: C-
Decent run blocking. Poor pass protection. Lots of penalties for such a veteran group.
TEs: Incomplete.
I guess decent blocking, but not enough engagement to provide a grade. A real shame we are not utilizing a nice talent like Jones.
WRs: D
Really only two have shown up. 15 Robertson looks like he can be a factor than drops balls and is not targeted. Mooney has been the workhouse but now has the dropsies . Encalade looks like he is sleepwalking and/or not all that interested. Weird.
QBs: D
Don't want to rehash this topic but suffice to say Banks has regressed and McMillan looks like what a 4 year guy who never touched the field should look like.
RBs: B
It looks like we have two or maybe three (excited to see more of Amare Jones) excellent RBs. In our 1 dimensional offense they have still done a nice job. No turnovers and many TDs. I will not mention again that they may look even better in open space (not really I will continue to mention it).

DL: B+
The pleasant surprise of the year. 77 Johnson and 78 Wright have been godsends. And their play has allowed Kennedy and Sample to produce. They stuff the middle well (will help v Navy). They don't get a ton of pressure on their own therefore the markdown from an A.
A shoutout to 34 Johnson and 54 Hatcher who look like they are keepers.
LBs: B
I think Harris is playing his heart out. He is in every play and is physical. Mooney really covers the field and is a nice asset. Graham doing well and physical.
DBs: C
I would duplicate my comments about Harris re both Teamer and Lewis. Our D philosophy puts them on an island and when we don't have pressure they are going to get exposed at times. 26 Keyes has played the best at the other corner.

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B+
Perfect on Field Goals
Mostly Touchbacks on Kickoffs
Punting average decent
Many punts downed inside opponent 10
May have found a kickoff return man in Amare Jones
Roberson steady at punt returner (the flub at Cincy will be his only this year)
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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:28 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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I think it has to be mentioned that our first half schedule looks a step tougher than our second half schedule.
Team, record, fpi rank

Wake, 3-3, 68
Nichols NA
UAB, 4-1, 87
OSU, 6-0, 2
Memphis, 4-2, 49
Cincinnati, 6-0, 53
FIRST HALF COMBINED RECORD: 23-6

SMU, 2-4, 102
Tulsa, 1-4, 95
USF, 5-0, 61
ECU, 2-3, 116
Houston, 4-1, 51
NAVY, 2-3, 101
COMBINED RECORD: 16-15

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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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Poseidon wrote:
I think it has to be mentioned that our first half schedule looks a step tougher than our second half schedule.
Team, record, fpi rank

Wake, 3-3, 68
Nichols NA
UAB, 4-1, 87
OSU, 6-0, 2
Memphis, 4-2, 49
Cincinnati, 6-0, 53
FIRST HALF COMBINED RECORD: 23-6

SMU, 2-4, 102
Tulsa, 1-4, 95
USF, 5-0, 61
ECU, 2-3, 116
Houston, 4-1, 51
NAVY, 2-3, 101
COMBINED RECORD: 16-15
Nicholls (#14 in fcs poll) is 4-1 making our first 6 opponents a combined 27-7. Nicholls only loss is to current #11 McNeese.

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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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waverider wrote:
Poseidon wrote:
I think it has to be mentioned that our first half schedule looks a step tougher than our second half schedule.
Team, record, fpi rank

Wake, 3-3, 68
Nichols NA
UAB, 4-1, 87
OSU, 6-0, 2
Memphis, 4-2, 49
Cincinnati, 6-0, 53
FIRST HALF COMBINED RECORD: 23-6

SMU, 2-4, 102
Tulsa, 1-4, 95
USF, 5-0, 61
ECU, 2-3, 116
Houston, 4-1, 51
NAVY, 2-3, 101
COMBINED RECORD: 16-15
Nicholls (#14 in fcs poll) is 4-1 making our first 6 opponents a combined 27-7. Nicholls only loss is to current #11 McNeese.

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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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We need to start the second season by beating smu like we beat Tulsa last year. Convincingly. Start to finish. Then those goals appear attainable. Pp


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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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We need to start the second season by beating smu like we beat Tulsa last year. Convincingly. Start to finish. Then those goals appear attainable. Pp


That would be fun. I'll take four one point victories. so far we are 0-2 in close games.

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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:22 am 
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Coaching D - personnel use an enigma, lack of identity, discipline break downs
Offense D - skill players not free in space, QBs a mess
Defense C - some flashes but not enough to win games
Specials B - best of the three phases but lack of FG range changes game plan

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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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Overall Coaching C-
Offensive Coaching D- (includes coaching and play calling)
Defensive Coaching B
Special Teams Coaching B+ (prior to last game was an A)

Offense Overall D+
O line D+
RBs C+ (different personnel utilization would make this an A)
WRs C-
TE incomplete
QB D+

Defense Overall B
D line A
LBs B
DBs C

Special Teams Overall B+
Punting B (was A before last game)
Kickoff A
Returns A

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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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RBs C+ (different personnel utilization would make this an A)

Doesn't that just fall on coaching? Unless we're planning utilization on the players

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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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gerryb323 wrote:
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RBs C+ (different personnel utilization would make this an A)

Doesn't that just fall on coaching? Unless we're planning utilization on the players


No because as a group the performance on field is what i graded

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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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windy, you can tell I was a Rickover guy. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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TUPF has the right grades here. Defensive performance has been a pleasant surprise only in that the youngsters have played a little better up front than we feared. Overall, defense has only been okay--enough to support wins when we get some offense but not a really good unit. Lack of pass rush has really hurt. I thought we'd see the opposite: pass rush at the ends but poor run stopping. I'll take what we have gotten. This year, anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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Wandering Quaker wrote:
TUPF has the right grades here. Defensive performance has been a pleasant surprise only in that the youngsters have played a little better up front than we feared. Overall, defense has only been okay--enough to support wins when we get some offense but not a really good unit. Lack of pass rush has really hurt. I thought we'd see the opposite: pass rush at the ends but poor run stopping. I'll take what we have gotten. This year, anyway.


Our defense has been good enough to win every game except one.

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TUPF wrote:
windy, you can tell I was a Rickover guy. :lol:


Glow in the dark?

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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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windywave wrote:
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windy, you can tell I was a Rickover guy. :lol:


Glow in the dark?
:lol:

Admiral H.G. Rickover: “There are only two levels of performance, 4.0 and unsatisfactory. And you are never 4.0.”

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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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gerryb323 wrote:
waverider wrote:
Poseidon wrote:
I think it has to be mentioned that our first half schedule looks a step tougher than our second half schedule.
Team, record, fpi rank

Wake, 3-3, 68
Nichols NA
UAB, 4-1, 87
OSU, 6-0, 2
Memphis, 4-2, 49
Cincinnati, 6-0, 53
FIRST HALF COMBINED RECORD: 23-6

SMU, 2-4, 102
Tulsa, 1-4, 95
USF, 5-0, 61
ECU, 2-3, 116
Houston, 4-1, 51
NAVY, 2-3, 101
COMBINED RECORD: 16-15
Nicholls (#14 in fcs poll) is 4-1 making our first 6 opponents a combined 27-7. Nicholls only loss is to current #11 McNeese.

Well, and us

I don’t know why I counted every game but ours :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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I love the “lack of identity” knock on the coaches. If there was ever a coach who’s identity was well known, it’s Willie Fritz. He has a plan that has otherwise been very successful. He still uses that plan, tailored to the capabilities of the players he has. His biggest challenge is convincing good football players to come to Tulane. He’s done a pretty good job so far with the best line on the program’s resume occurring 20 years ago. I find it hard to believe a coaching staff that has won at every prior place they’ve been has suddenly forgotten every thing they know about coaching football. :?

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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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Juju threads: F- (we are 1-0 without '54 starting juju threads, 1-4 with--you do the math)

I think there’s something to this :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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I love the “lack of identity” knock on the coaches. If there was ever a coach who’s identity was well known, it’s Willie Fritz. He has a plan that has otherwise been very successful. He still uses that plan, tailored to the capabilities of the players he has. His biggest challenge is convincing good football players to come to Tulane. He’s done a pretty good job so far with the best line on the program’s resume occurring 20 years ago. I find it hard to believe a coaching staff that has won at every prior place they’ve been has suddenly forgotten every thing they know about coaching football. :?

So what is our identity then? Not at every place he coached before here. What is it now? Are we a running team? Six games in and it seems we start from scratch every game. Sure he has challenges. If it were easy Boy Scouts could do it. That’s why this 3 years intact staff has to use what they have, not kvetch about what they don’t have.

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TUPF wrote:
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I love the “lack of identity” knock on the coaches. If there was ever a coach who’s identity was well known, it’s Willie Fritz. He has a plan that has otherwise been very successful. He still uses that plan, tailored to the capabilities of the players he has. His biggest challenge is convincing good football players to come to Tulane. He’s done a pretty good job so far with the best line on the program’s resume occurring 20 years ago. I find it hard to believe a coaching staff that has won at every prior place they’ve been has suddenly forgotten every thing they know about coaching football. :?

So what is our identity then? Not at every place he coached before here. What is it now? Are we a running team? Six games in and it seems we start from scratch every game. Sure he has challenges. If it were easy Boy Scouts could do it. That’s why this 3 years intact staff has to use what they have, not kvetch about what they don’t have.


I think offensively it is a valid question.

1. At Fritz's last two stops he had two very different offenses.

2. The recruited QB's strength's and weaknesses have not been consistent. depending on which QB is in the game has changed the whole offense. With GC we were little option and short passed. JBrantly option heavy. JBanks no option with mainly sideline passes, deep balls, and hero ball. With JM the info is still out, but it appears different. We have had four different offenses with each QB.


"No Identity" identity is also a possibility. While this can work. You will see a lot of ups and downs from year tot year. The best example of successful No Identity coaches I can think of is Houston Nutt, while at arky and ole miss. That said I think CWF is more of a CEO/Program Head Coach than a OC/DC Head Coach.

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 Post subject: Re: Mid Season Grades
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Poseidon wrote:
2. The recruited QB's strength's and weaknesses have not been consistent. depending on which QB is in the game has changed the whole offense. With GC we were little option and short passed. JBrantly option heavy. JBanks no option with mainly sideline passes, deep balls, and hero ball. With JM the info is still out, but it appears different. We have had four different offenses with each QB.


That would be the tailored offense we’ve heard so little about. The assumption was that tailoring your offense to the players you have would work better.

Still, an inconsistent offense is a step up over what we had under CJ. Depressing consistency.

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