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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:15 pm 
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Closers do have a different mentality, especially when inheriting base runners. The great ones have ice water in their veins. Look no further than the best in MLB. If the bases are loaded with no outs in a one run game, would you rather Mariano Rivera or some guy that can get three outs in the 7th inning?

College is a little more fluid, but in MLB closers almost never inherit base runners. They come on in the 9th with a clean slate and the task of coming in with the bases loaded and no outs is left to the...7th inning guy.


Fair enough. But how many college closers come in when the game is tied.

Bottom line, closing is a “position”. You want a guy that is a bulldog, throws strikes, has an out pitch (a hammer), and can throw with little rest. No different than wanting a catcher who frames well, has soft hands, is tough, can block, has a pop time of 1.9 or lower, and works well with the staff. Or a CF that runs the 60 in the 6.6 range, gets great jumps on the ball, above average arm, and is a take charge type of guy. Each position is defined by certain characteristics that a coach wants, including a closer.


You’re not describing a mentality. Those are all physical traits except for “bulldog”.


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visualmagic wrote:
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Closers do have a different mentality, especially when inheriting base runners. The great ones have ice water in their veins. Look no further than the best in MLB. If the bases are loaded with no outs in a one run game, would you rather Mariano Rivera or some guy that can get three outs in the 7th inning?

College is a little more fluid, but in MLB closers almost never inherit base runners. They come on in the 9th with a clean slate and the task of coming in with the bases loaded and no outs is left to the...7th inning guy.


Fair enough. But how many college closers come in when the game is tied.

Bottom line, closing is a “position”. You want a guy that is a bulldog, throws strikes, has an out pitch (a hammer), and can throw with little rest. No different than wanting a catcher who frames well, has soft hands, is tough, can block, has a pop time of 1.9 or lower, and works well with the staff. Or a CF that runs the 60 in the 6.6 range, gets great jumps on the ball, above average arm, and is a take charge type of guy. Each position is defined by certain characteristics that a coach wants, including a closer.


You’re not describing a mentality. Those are all physical traits except for “bulldog”.


Which one is listed first?


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WTF does “bulldog” even mean?


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WTF does “bulldog” even mean?
The US Marine Corp’s mascot is the bulldog for a reason: tenacity, perseverance in the face of overwhelming odds, perseverance when all you want to do is quit. There’s a reason the Marine Corp calls it’s mandatory pre-commissioning officer training Bulldog. No wimps. Many don’t make the cut.

I want my 9th inning closer to be a bulldog.

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WTF does “bulldog” even mean?
The US Marine Corp’s mascot is the bulldog for a reason: tenacity, perseverance in the face of overwhelming odds, perseverance when all you want to do is quit. There’s a reason the Marine Corp calls it’s mandatory pre-commissioning officer training Bulldog. No wimps. Many don’t make the cut.

I want my 9th inning closer to be a bulldog.

"not quitting" doesn't seem to be much of a bar.


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In actual baseball terms a bulldog would be a pitcher who outcompetes his “stuff.”

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long green wrote:
In actual baseball terms a bulldog would be a pitcher who outcompetes his “stuff.”

Whatever that means!


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ml wave wrote:
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In actual baseball terms a bulldog would be a pitcher who outcompetes his “stuff.”

Whatever that means!

Mentality!

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Glad we’ve got this all figured out. :mrgreen:


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It is pretty simple.


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wavedom wrote:
It is pretty simple.


Then explain in plain English what it means to be a “bulldog”.


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visualmagic wrote:
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It is pretty simple.


Then explain in plain English what it means to be a “bulldog”.

Gutty, lunch pail type, will bull his neck, and wants the ball. Has hammer, will travel.

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It's been explained very clearly. Read the thread.


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Do people really need an explanation as to what a bulldog is or ice water in your veins actually means when referencing athletes as such? If so, do you need an explanation at to what a stole base is or what a double play represents? This thread is the craziest crap you will ever read. Resume.

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tjtlja wrote:
Do people really need an explanation as to what a bulldog is or ice water in your veins actually means when referencing athletes as such? If so, do you need an explanation at to what a stole base is or what a double play represents? This thread is the craziest crap you will ever read. Resume.

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What's a stole base?

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windywave wrote:
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Do people really need an explanation as to what a bulldog is or ice water in your veins actually means when referencing athletes as such? If so, do you need an explanation at to what a stole base is or what a double play represents? This thread is the craziest crap you will ever read. Resume.

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What's a stole base?


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It's getting to the point where we will have to consider dropping the Green Wave mascot and adopting the Bulldogs. Maybe a hybrid?

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wavedom wrote:
It's been explained very clearly. Read the thread.


I’ve read 3 different definitions by 3 different people


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tjtlja wrote:
Do people really need an explanation as to what a bulldog is or ice water in your veins actually means when referencing athletes as such? If so, do you need an explanation at to what a stole base is or what a double play represents? This thread is the craziest crap you will ever read. Resume.

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Ice water in your veins has a pretty set definition. Bulldog doesn’t.

Can I get a list of who the bulldogs on our staff are?


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