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He has mproved and knowing where is starting from is instructive.
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That's what I'm talking about.
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If Tulane is to achieve the longshot of having a breakout season, it needs to be able to kick 50 yard FGs consistently.

Glover does have a strong leg. Fritz has told me it often sounds like a cannon shot in practice when he kicks the ball. Glover just needs to be able to make the long ones when it counts. May it happen this year.

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I’d settle for 45 in. Consistent at 50 would be something any college or oftentimes pro team would aspire to.
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TUPF wrote:I’d settle for 45 in. Consistent at 50 would be something any college or oftentimes pro team would aspire to.
I'd settle for not kicking field goals over 40 again
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No doubt that a big piece of a breakout season will be major improvement in this area. Looking forward to us being able to confidently call for the FG unit to attempt kicks between 40-50 yards.
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TUPF wrote:I’d settle for 45 in. Consistent at 50 would be something any college or oftentimes pro team would aspire to.
I'd settle for not kicking field goals over 40 again
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Thanks, gerry. So it’s the 40-49 yarders for us that if we have even an average to slightly above average FG game, it opens up a world of possibilities. Right now we hit a wall.

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The kicker needs to be able to nail the field goals, from wherever they are kicked, at 80%+. It's frustrating to punt from the 35, but it's better than missing a field goal.
Who's going to kick off this season? Block was good at that last year.

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TUPF wrote:Thanks, gerry. So it’s the 40-49 yarders for us that if we have even an average to slightly above average FG game, it opens up a world of possibilities. Right now we hit a wall.

We’ll see.
The most attempts for the season I could find was 11, so just about 1 per game at most. Alabama had a kicker at 100%, but just 3-3. Again, let's just score touchdowns and kick less.
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GSx wrote:The kicker needs to be able to nail the field goals, from wherever they are kicked, at 80%+. It's frustrating to punt from the 35, but it's better than missing a field goal.
Who's going to kick off this season? Block was good at that last year.
I'd argue you should probably just go for it from the 35. The potential for position change likely isn't worth it to punt. Of course if you plan to do that, third down can be treated completely differently.
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gerryb323 wrote:
GSx wrote:The kicker needs to be able to nail the field goals, from wherever they are kicked, at 80%+. It's frustrating to punt from the 35, but it's better than missing a field goal.
Who's going to kick off this season? Block was good at that last year.
I'd argue you should probably just go for it from the 35. The potential for position change likely isn't worth it to punt. Of course if you plan to do that, third does can be treated completely differently.
I hope we see this mindset going forward. It's great to have the ability to kick a longer field goal if needed, but the numbers agree with going for it a lot of the time when you are between the 50 and +25. The focus should always be on touchdowns and as an added bonus, sustaining drives and retaining the ball longer to keep it away from the opponent. Using third down to set up 4th down conversions is part of that.

On another note, how about the attitude of Glover in that article? Seeking out the coaches for ways to improve and then following up by taking action over the summer to get better at those things, all while keeping a positive outlook. The part about wanting to make a game winner - that's the kind of mentality I think you want in a kicker. I hope he gets his shot.

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the ONLY thing that bothers me about our PK situation is that we have scholarship players who can't beat Glover out... but if he TRULY has improved, it's nothing but a good thing. Interesting how it took just a few technique adjustments to potentially fix the problem... shows you that he wasn't getting the right coaching.
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gerryb323 wrote:
GSx wrote:The kicker needs to be able to nail the field goals, from wherever they are kicked, at 80%+. It's frustrating to punt from the 35, but it's better than missing a field goal.
Who's going to kick off this season? Block was good at that last year.
I'd argue you should probably just go for it from the 35. The potential for position change likely isn't worth it to punt. Of course if you plan to do that, third down can be treated completely differently.
That too, which is why kicking the 40s accurately is more important than being able to kick 50s. That said, at 4th and 8 from the 35, I'd punt (presuming our punter can nail them inside the 10) and let our DL give us field position back.

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gerryb323 wrote:Image
Deal. With. It.

It's been dealt with. We are going to be kicking a lot more FG's.






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Johnny Mac wrote:the ONLY thing that bothers me about our PK situation is that we have scholarship players who can't beat Glover out... but if he TRULY has improved, it's nothing but a good thing. Interesting how it took just a few technique adjustments to potentially fix the problem... shows you that he wasn't getting the right coaching.
Who are the scholarship players who can’t beat him out? I can think of one who had his shot. The other kicker on scholarship is Ryan Wright, who does not placekick. Every other kicker is not on scholarship.
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Thanks I know that. Johnny said “players.”
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wavedom wrote:
gerryb323 wrote:Image
Deal. With. It.

It's been dealt with. We are going to be kicking a lot more FG's.






Deal. With. It.
So you want us to have a worse offense and regress on our progressive decision-making. Got it.
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gerryb323 wrote:
wavedom wrote:
gerryb323 wrote:Image
Deal. With. It.

It's been dealt with. We are going to be kicking a lot more FG's.






Deal. With. It.
So you want us to have a worse offense and regress on our progressive decision-making. Got it.
I'm as analytics friendly as anyone, but sometimes you have to be able to kick a FG based on the score, clock, down/distance, etc. We've been playing with one hand (foot?) tied behind our back for years now.

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ml wave wrote:
gerryb323 wrote:
wavedom wrote:
gerryb323 wrote:Image
Deal. With. It.

It's been dealt with. We are going to be kicking a lot more FG's.






Deal. With. It.
So you want us to have a worse offense and regress on our progressive decision-making. Got it.
I'm as analytics friendly as anyone, but sometimes you have to be able to kick a FG based on the score, clock, down/distance, etc. We've been playing with one hand (foot?) tied behind our back for years now.
Of course, but "kicking a lot more FG" would not be indicative of kicking FG in the few instances beyond 40 yards that make sense. If we're kicking a lot more FG, we're doing something wrong.
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ml wave wrote:
gerryb323 wrote:
wavedom wrote:
gerryb323 wrote:Image
Deal. With. It.

It's been dealt with. We are going to be kicking a lot more FG's.






Deal. With. It.
So you want us to have a worse offense and regress on our progressive decision-making. Got it.
I'm as analytics friendly as anyone, but sometimes you have to be able to kick a FG based on the score, clock, down/distance, etc. We've been playing with one hand (foot?) tied behind our back for years now.
The obvious answer. Took a while, of course.
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long green wrote:Thanks I know that. Johnny said “players.”
yeah, sorry.. I thought Stockwell was a scholarship kicker
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