Hoops begins

Anyone can read this board. However, to post messages, you must register.
NJwave
Regent's Circle
Posts: 5055
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:18 pm

Hoops begins

Post by NJwave »

Exhibition games tonight and tomorrow for the respective programs. I can't wait to see the product Hunter puts on the floor and to have a proven winner behind the bench. I hope everybody in the area is able to attend so you can say you were there the night things started to turn around.

User avatar
OGSB
Emerald Circle
Posts: 16881
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:00 pm

Re: Hoops begins

Post by OGSB »

Loyola?
Past performance is no guarantee of future results

User avatar
TU77CAL82
Coach Level
Posts: 2207
Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:29 pm
Location: Broadmoor

Re: Hoops begins

Post by TU77CAL82 »

Spring Hill. An exhibition on Halloween night is a no-go for me, but I'll be there for the real thing next week.

Baywave1
Regent's Circle
Posts: 7417
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:48 am

Re: Hoops begins

Post by Baywave1 »

Word is Zhang is starting at center. If so, Air Raid is coming to MBB. Paul Westhead meet Gail Goodrich Bruin pressure defense. This definitely won't be Dunleavy Ball.

BTW, I haven't seen anything about Daniels being eligible this year at Nova. I guess he needs Hunter to refer him a lawyer!

User avatar
GreenieBacker
Emerald Circle
Posts: 20886
Joined: Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:53 am
Location: New Orleans

Re: Hoops begins

Post by GreenieBacker »

Zhang at Center???!!!???! :shock:

like you say, Dorothy this isn't Dunleavy ball anymore................
A magic dwells in each beginning- H.H.

User avatar
long green
Cornerstone
Posts: 26169
Joined: Sun Jun 27, 2004 10:34 am
Location: New Orleans

Re: Hoops begins

Post by long green »

Sounds like a way to stretch his minutes. I doubt he’d spend most of his court time doing that. Of course growing five inches and bulking up to 270 pounds in the offseason may be a reason for him to play more down low.*



*this didn’t happen
The gap between the top of the big leagues and their bottom is now bigger than the gap between their bottom and us - P.R. told me to do this

gerryb323
Regent's Circle
Posts: 6952
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:18 am
Location: Wichita

Re: Hoops begins

Post by gerryb323 »

long green wrote:Sounds like a way to stretch his minutes. I doubt he’d spend most of his court time doing that. Of course growing five inches and bulking up to 270 pounds in the offseason may be a reason for him to play more down low.*

*this didn’t happen
He does seem to be taller.
Last edited by gerryb323 on Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
hashtagStopbunting
hashtagStopPUNTING!

NJwave
Regent's Circle
Posts: 5055
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:18 pm

Re: Hoops begins

Post by NJwave »

Baywave1 wrote:Word is Zhang is starting at center. If so, Air Raid is coming to MBB. Paul Westhead meet Gail Goodrich Bruin pressure defense. This definitely won't be Dunleavy Ball.

BTW, I haven't seen anything about Daniels being eligible this year at Nova. I guess he needs Hunter to refer him a lawyer!
Don't forget that we won't be playing man to man defense so typical position titles such as center on the defensive end mean very little. I look at it as he will one of the big men counted on to do a good job rebounding.

If we get him matched up against the opposing center on the offensive end, the center will have to come out and defend him leaving space in the middle. I don't see him as somebody that will be posting up down low on offense.

Basically, I see the point guard on offense being more of a defined role and everything else being very fluid.

User avatar
GreenieBacker
Emerald Circle
Posts: 20886
Joined: Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:53 am
Location: New Orleans

Re: Hoops begins

Post by GreenieBacker »

he's got some "big" bodies to work with, the Ali kid that just got cleared and that true freshman from Wisconsin that is supposed to have a decent inside game.
A magic dwells in each beginning- H.H.

User avatar
PeteRasche
Emerald Circle
Posts: 23549
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:52 am
Location: Cincinnati, OH

Re: Hoops begins

Post by PeteRasche »

Zhang perhaps at center because he's the slowest of the guys Hunter will start and you can hide that in the 5 spot on a press? Just a thought. I know very little of what Hunter will do but my impression is quickness is important.

Anxious to hear comments from anyone who attends.

gerryb323
Regent's Circle
Posts: 6952
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:18 am
Location: Wichita

Re: Hoops begins

Post by gerryb323 »

Zhang's like 6'10"
hashtagStopbunting
hashtagStopPUNTING!

User avatar
GreenieBacker
Emerald Circle
Posts: 20886
Joined: Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:53 am
Location: New Orleans

Re: Hoops begins

Post by GreenieBacker »

Pete that's a great point you make. Hunter may want Zhang in there for his offensive potential but is trying to hide/minimize his lack of speed and quickness. Last year Zhang was a slow guy on a slow team who would get abused defensively every time MD insisted on playing his Man to Man defense. So Hunter puts him at Center where his lack of foot speed isn't as much of a handicap but still takes advantage of his offensive skills. Will be interesting to watch.
A magic dwells in each beginning- H.H.

User avatar
sr
Regent's Circle
Posts: 8018
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:54 pm
Location: Dripping Springs

Re: Hoops begins

Post by sr »

NJwave wrote:Basically, I see the point guard on offense being more of a defined role and everything else being very fluid.
Wait - point guard? Oh yeah, now I remember … :idea:

User avatar
sr
Regent's Circle
Posts: 8018
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:54 pm
Location: Dripping Springs

Re: Hoops begins

Post by sr »

Tulane 93 - SHU 55

Lawson - 17
Hightower - 23
Thompson - 24
Walker - 9
Zhang - 7
Ona Embo - 7

User avatar
murphwave
Navigator Level
Posts: 1413
Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:30 am
Location: Boston / Houston / New Orleans
Contact:

Re: Hoops begins

Post by murphwave »

Draining the 3s. Hard to judge vs the competition, but team was 13-30 from downtown. Lawson was 5-6, and Thompson was 4-6.
BS '99
MBA 2007

User avatar
randymc
President's Circle
Posts: 3583
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:42 pm
Location: New Orleans
Contact:

Re: Hoops begins

Post by randymc »

Teshaun Hightower a monster on defensive end. zone D gets extended to 3/4 of the half court with aggressive traps; some pressing full court. Tulane with a bucket full of steals against tonight's lesser competition. Lots of hustle from start to finish. Nic Thomas and Koka must have some slight injuries; they were the only two who didn't play. And MOVEMENT on the offensive end.

User avatar
PeteRasche
Emerald Circle
Posts: 23549
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:52 am
Location: Cincinnati, OH

Re: Hoops begins

Post by PeteRasche »

Sounds great. How did Walker look? Ona Embo look healthy?

Were there lots of assists, or was the offense more "find someone with a good match up and let them do their thing"? Much scoring in transition?

User avatar
randymc
President's Circle
Posts: 3583
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:42 pm
Location: New Orleans
Contact:

Re: Hoops begins

Post by randymc »

22 assists on 34 made baskets; Walker's play improved a good bit I thought in second half; Embo played about 20 minutes or so coming off the bench. Embo and Lawson led TU with 8 Rebounds each; for Embo, no lingering effects of his injury but it was Walker with 7 assists and zero turnovers who seemed a bit more active overall. Toward latter part of game Walker was getting floor burns diving after loose balls, deflections. Wave moved ball briskly with passes and guards overall made penetration into lane, then quick ball movement to corners for open three-point looks, 40 percent of which ended up as made shots. Tulane does need to rebound better. Ibby Ali looked good on that front in limited action.

User avatar
waverider
Emerald Circle
Posts: 22453
Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2004 5:20 pm
Location: North Kenner

Re: Hoops begins

Post by waverider »

sr wrote:Tulane 93 - SHU 55

Lawson - 17
Hightower - 23
Thompson - 24
Walker - 9
Zhang - 7
Ona Embo - 7
According to Guerry’s tweet, we won 93-5 :?
Tulane Greenbackers

"It's my job to prepare the coaches. It's their job is to prepare the players and the players' job is to play lights out." Willie Fritz

"If you want to win you have to have good players." Vince Gibson

User avatar
PeteRasche
Emerald Circle
Posts: 23549
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:52 am
Location: Cincinnati, OH

Re: Hoops begins

Post by PeteRasche »


Baywave1
Regent's Circle
Posts: 7417
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:48 am

Re: Hoops begins

Post by Baywave1 »

Randymc summarized it well. It's the movement on offense and defense and with and without the ball that was most striking. And yes Zhang did play a lot of center with predictable results. He should be applauded for playing very hard while out of his natural position. It's just Tulane could use a true center/rim protector on defense and unless Ali (or Days?) develops quickly we will not see that this season.

In addition to Thompson shooting as advertised, I was very impressed with Walker's point guard work. Ona Embo will play a lot because he seems well suited to Hunter's defense and he rebounds very well for his size. He's not being Wally Pipped. He may just not play as much number one as he did under Dunleavy.

Without surprise, Lawson and Hightower dominated as they did in the open practice several weeks ago. It is still mystifying that Crean let Hightower get away.

NJwave
Regent's Circle
Posts: 5055
Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:18 pm

Re: Hoops begins

Post by NJwave »

It’s really nice to have some veterans. I looked up Lawson’s stats for his career. One year he averaged .7 3s made on 2.1 attempts. It appears that he will be much more of a threat from outside with Hunter’s blessing. Ditto for the other transfers if you look up their career numbers. The one guy who has shot a ton is Thomas. I hope he is healthy as I really can’t wait to see how he fits in.

Baywave1
Regent's Circle
Posts: 7417
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:48 am

Re: Hoops begins

Post by Baywave1 »

Guerry Smith's take on the game:

https://www.nola.com/sports/tulane/arti ... 65f51.html

Smith seems about right that for Tulane to win this year, it's all about the shooting. I'd guess Tulane this season may have a significant upset or two when it makes 'em and a thumping or two from a mediocre team when it doesn't.

Here is the money quote from Hunter that is truly refreshing to any long suffering Wave hoops fan:

“What I’m more concerned with his how hard we play, and that’s something we can control....This did remind me of one of my Georgia State teams how hard we play. We’ve been working on it since June. The shots will fall sometimes and sometimes they won’t, but if we play hard, we’ll have a chance every night.”

User avatar
OGSB
Emerald Circle
Posts: 16881
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:00 pm

Re: Hoops begins

Post by OGSB »

murphwave wrote: Hard to judge vs the competition,
Last year vs Loyola in hindsight was very telling.
Past performance is no guarantee of future results

User avatar
sr
Regent's Circle
Posts: 8018
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2004 12:54 pm
Location: Dripping Springs

Re: Hoops begins

Post by sr »

Pics from last night … Coach Hunter with the threads :mrgreen:

also, reported that Tulane has switched sides as to where they are sitting - yes?

https://greenwave.exposure.co/tulane-me ... pring-hill

42 seconds of highlights -

https://twitter.com/TulaneAthletics/sta ... 11584?s=20

Post Reply