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Pratt #1 qb under the radar.

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NBC Sports has Pratt rated #1 QB under the radar this year. Miss St. Rogers #2 Houston Tune #3 Prudue Oconnell #4 BYU Hall #5. as their top 5. :mrgreen:
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Goes to show that everyone has opinions and they don’t always agree. He was one of the bottom 10-20 QBs according to ESPN (who I can state for 99% certainty doesn’t do their homework).
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It says the TU oline has kept him from being the QB he could be with more help. :green wink:
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tkruebbe wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:39 pm It says the TU oline has kept him from being the QB he could be with more help. :green wink:
Sounds like they have a more accurate evaluation of him, stating everything we have seen on the field.
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waverider wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:01 pm
tkruebbe wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:39 pm It says the TU oline has kept him from being the QB he could be with more help. :green wink:
Sounds like they have a more accurate evaluation of him, stating everything we have seen on the field.
My thoughts exactly. If our line had been even the average one it was in 2020, I think he'd have had a great year in 2021. And lest we forget the WR drops as well.
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Or if we had an offensive coordinator who recognized our o - line weakness and developed schemes (and was able to get the team to believe in them) to compensate for that fact. Didn’t Hall start to address that in his game plan?

Very glad to see that Michael is again one of the Counselors at the Manning Passing Academy this year.
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Saw this on the other Tulane board regarding the next group of G5’s that will be making noise as written by someone at The Athletic -

Air Force, Appalachian State, Army, Fresno State, Louisiana, Marshall, Memphis, Navy, Northern Illinois, San Diego State, SMU, and UAB

No mention of Tulane. Wish I could have read the author’s rational for the schools who made the list.
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tjtlja wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:54 pm Saw this on the other Tulane board regarding the next group of G5’s that will be making noise as written by someone at The Athletic -

Air Force, Appalachian State, Army, Fresno State, Louisiana, Marshall, Memphis, Navy, Northern Illinois, San Diego State, SMU, and UAB

No mention of Tulane. Wish I could have read the author’s rational for the schools who made the list.
https://theathletic.com/3380233/2022/06 ... ed-article
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gerry, thanks you!
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tjtlja wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:54 pm Saw this on the other Tulane board regarding the next group of G5’s that will be making noise as written by someone at The Athletic -

Air Force, Appalachian State, Army, Fresno State, Louisiana, Marshall, Memphis, Navy, Northern Illinois, San Diego State, SMU, and UAB

No mention of Tulane. Wish I could have read the author’s rational for the schools who made the list.
Tulane is mentioned, just farther down. The article is in parallel to a similar article about the P5 schools, talking about which ones run the show and which are second, third, and fourth tier. Tulane is third tier G5.

The article has Cinci, Houston, UCF, and Boise as the "kings" of the G5. Since they've accounted for all but a couple of NY6 berths AND they have solid history going back to the BCS days (or farther back in Houston's case).

Tier 2 features the teams you mention and is solid programs that haven't reached sustained heights.

Tier 3 includes us, ECU, Temple, Tulsa, USF, plus future conference mates FAU, NT, and UTSA. It's the largest grouping and has plenty of schools that make occasional bowls but have no real history of challenging for anything significant on a regular basis.

Tier 4 are the "peasants" and includes teams with either no recent history of success or no recent history at all. Charlotte and Rice are here.
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Great to know we are Tier 3 of the G5. A lot of national optimism (and our AD is positioning us for exactly what).
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For 4 years national writers had us as the “break out team” heading into the season. We whimpered into 3 bowls with 6 win seasons and still had a chance to capitalize on the first back-to-back-to-back bowl run, then last year’s debacle happened. Until we prove otherwise we are still the same ole Tulane to them.
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waverider wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:18 pmUntil we prove otherwise we are still the same ole Tulane to them.
Yup. Actually, we're the same old Tulane to everyone except us diehards. Okay, not completely true, because from like 20 years ago through about 6 years ago, we'd have been the bottom tier of G5, so... there's that, for whatever it's worth (nothing).

Nonetheless, note this list is made by NBC Sports, whose knowledge of G5 is only as far as what it takes to explain why Notre Dame is better than each and every team (even up until the final whistle of Cincinnati beating them last year, which they absolutely treated as a fluke).
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PeteRasche wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:12 pm
waverider wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:18 pmUntil we prove otherwise we are still the same ole Tulane to them.
Yup. Actually, we're the same old Tulane to everyone except us diehards. Okay, not completely true, because from like 20 years ago through about 6 years ago, we'd have been the bottom tier of G5, so... there's that, for whatever it's worth (nothing).

Nonetheless, note this list is made by NBC Sports, whose knowledge of G5 is only as far as what it takes to explain why Notre Dame is better than each and every team (even up until the final whistle of Cincinnati beating them last year, which they absolutely treated as a fluke).
It was a fluke. They were fortunate to beat us, Tulsa, and Navy. Their out of conference schedule, besides ND, was pathetic. In the Big 12, they would have had 3-4 losses.
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Back to the point: you don’t want drive by media and fan treatment then win more than two games, start winning 50/50 games, play meaningful games in November and start winning conference championships.

At least with a healthy Pratt, it’s more than wishcasting to achieve some/all of the above.
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tjtlja wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:55 am
PeteRasche wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:12 pm
waverider wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:18 pmUntil we prove otherwise we are still the same ole Tulane to them.
Yup. Actually, we're the same old Tulane to everyone except us diehards. Okay, not completely true, because from like 20 years ago through about 6 years ago, we'd have been the bottom tier of G5, so... there's that, for whatever it's worth (nothing).

Nonetheless, note this list is made by NBC Sports, whose knowledge of G5 is only as far as what it takes to explain why Notre Dame is better than each and every team (even up until the final whistle of Cincinnati beating them last year, which they absolutely treated as a fluke).
It was a fluke. They were fortunate to beat us, Tulsa, and Navy. Their out of conference schedule, besides ND, was pathetic. In the Big 12, they would have had 3-4 losses.
Strongly disagree here. They had 9 nfl draft picks for a reason. They were a really solid team and while they did get some good bounces, that's a requirement to have a 12 win season.

Georgia got smoked by Bama first time out, then got the benefit of Bamas best receiver being hurt for the rematch. They also beat the worst Clemson team in a half decade without scoring an offensive TD. One bad turnover and they lose that game and are out of the playoff with the Bama loss.

Post game win expectancies show Cincinnati was consistently a very good, top 5 team. They aren't losing 4 games in the 2021 big 12
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Article by Crissy Froyd for NBC.

“TULANE'S MICHAEL PRATT MAY BE 2022'S MOST UNDERRATED QB”

https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/article/p ... rses-watch
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I'm interested to see how well Pratt adapts to the quicker release demands of the new offense. Under hall and long, he was asked to get through a lot of post-snap action and had to wait for receivers to get open--sometimes by design and sometimes because receivers were easily covered. At its worst, the passing game reminded me of the crappy offense we ran under Wally English, with Wade Elmore running for his life. It's going to take some rethinking for Pratt to adjust.
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Ok with me if Pratt pads his stats with extended handoff passes to Spears et al. Put those folks in space and may take some pressure off the OL and the receivers as well
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waverider wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:39 am Article by Crissy Froyd for NBC.

“TULANE'S MICHAEL PRATT MAY BE 2022'S MOST UNDERRATED QB”

https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/article/p ... rses-watch
Nice article. Did the legwork and talked to several people besides Pratt himself. And managed to be semi-gentle when pointing out how Pratt has done what he's done with receivers that often can't catch, and a Swiss cheese OL...
some of the shortcomings from some of those around him
Yeah, that's one way to put it... 8)
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