Hullabaloo surveys Tulane community on reopening

[PeteRasche]

"It's gonna be a sh-t show"
(not my words, it's in the story title)
https://tulanehullabaloo.com/53675/news ... -a-s-show/

[TUPF]

Not surprising. Apt title. Every university is going to have problems. I can just imagine the super spread of the virus when megastate university students do their standard migration home to the Dairy Queen on non-football weekends.

[Yankeewave]

think of freshman move in at any school. plus dorms, bars, umm yeah.

[PeteRasche]

The single biggest risk on move-in day is the elevator. Bunch of people packed in a small space where the air doesn't move. I suspect a single sick person's "vapor cloud" could linger in an elevator for minutes. Someone will get in an elevator with only family members and take their mask down because they're with family and fill the elevator with their breath, then someone else will walk into it after they get off. The only way to fight that would be to have elevator rides regulated by RAs, and that would cause the move-in to literally take days.

[Yankeewave]

yeah, going up and down the elevators in Monroe and Sharp will not be fun. i wonder if you have fans on each floor pointing into the elevators to try and get air circulating, although that might just make things work. i am also not sure how you get air circulation in those buildings. As a student, this is one year where you would really want to be in Phelps or Irby with their outdoor balcony access

[PeteRasche]

From an HVAC standpoint, having even a simple box fan blowing into the elevator on each floor which would stir the air every time the doors opened would indeed be helpful. I just doubt that's the kind of thing that they'd think worthy of bothering. But it really would help.

[TU77CAL82]

This is my understanding about how it's supposed to work:
Tulane has leased the Hyatt Regency
Student reports to the Hyatt with his/her stuff
Student is tested for Covid and given a room at the Hyatt
Student's stuff is delivered to their dorm room on campus
The next day, if student test comes back negative, student can head to campus
If student tests positive, they will be moved to a quarantine dorm
No visitors allowed in dorms on campus
Students who request single room (no roomate) will live at the Hyatt

[PeteRasche]

This is my understanding about how it's supposed to work:
Tulane has leased the Hyatt Regency
Student reports to the Hyatt with his/her stuff
Student is tested for Covid and given a room at the Hyatt
Student's stuff is delivered to their dorm room on campus
The next day, if student test comes back negative, student can head to campus
If student tests positive, they will be moved to a quarantine dorm
No visitors allowed in dorms on campus
Students who request single room (no roomate) will live at the Hyatt

That is pretty impressive. I'm surprised they aren't publicizing that more.

[TUPF]

This is my understanding about how it's supposed to work:
Tulane has leased the Hyatt Regency
Student reports to the Hyatt with his/her stuff
Student is tested for Covid and given a room at the Hyatt
Student's stuff is delivered to their dorm room on campus
The next day, if student test comes back negative, student can head to campus
If student tests positive, they will be moved to a quarantine dorm
No visitors allowed in dorms on campus
Students who request single room (no roomate) will live at the Hyatt

How will it work for off campus students?

[windywave]

This is my understanding about how it's supposed to work:
Tulane has leased the Hyatt Regency
Student reports to the Hyatt with his/her stuff
Student is tested for Covid and given a room at the Hyatt
Student's stuff is delivered to their dorm room on campus
The next day, if student test comes back negative, student can head to campus
If student tests positive, they will be moved to a quarantine dorm
No visitors allowed in dorms on campus
Students who request single room (no roomate) will live at the Hyatt

How will it work for off campus students?

Ever see Mad Max?

[gerryb323]

This is my understanding about how it's supposed to work:
Tulane has leased the Hyatt Regency
Student reports to the Hyatt with his/her stuff
Student is tested for Covid and given a room at the Hyatt
Student's stuff is delivered to their dorm room on campus
The next day, if student test comes back negative, student can head to campus
If student tests positive, they will be moved to a quarantine dorm
No visitors allowed in dorms on campus
Students who request single room (no roomate) will live at the Hyatt

How will it work for off campus students?

Ever see Mad Max?

Beyond Thunderdome?

[MattK]

This is my understanding about how it's supposed to work:
Tulane has leased the Hyatt Regency
Student reports to the Hyatt with his/her stuff
Student is tested for Covid and given a room at the Hyatt
Student's stuff is delivered to their dorm room on campus
The next day, if student test comes back negative, student can head to campus
If student tests positive, they will be moved to a quarantine dorm
No visitors allowed in dorms on campus
Students who request single room (no roomate) will live at the Hyatt

They really need to keep them in the Hyatt and do a follow up test a few days later. Of course, that would depend on college students staying in the Hyatt for days without venturing into the quarter, so probably better to rely on the one test.

[PeteRasche]

This is my understanding about how it's supposed to work:
Tulane has leased the Hyatt Regency
Student reports to the Hyatt with his/her stuff
Student is tested for Covid and given a room at the Hyatt
Student's stuff is delivered to their dorm room on campus
The next day, if student test comes back negative, student can head to campus
If student tests positive, they will be moved to a quarantine dorm
No visitors allowed in dorms on campus
Students who request single room (no roomate) will live at the Hyatt

How will it work for off campus students?

They are likely only worried about testing for people in dorms. They can't control the student health in classes.

Yeah, the hypocrisy is that all the students in the dorms can be tested clear and then they go to class and get exposed to off-campus kids who are infected...

[TUPF]

This is my understanding about how it's supposed to work:
Tulane has leased the Hyatt Regency
Student reports to the Hyatt with his/her stuff
Student is tested for Covid and given a room at the Hyatt
Student's stuff is delivered to their dorm room on campus
The next day, if student test comes back negative, student can head to campus
If student tests positive, they will be moved to a quarantine dorm
No visitors allowed in dorms on campus
Students who request single room (no roomate) will live at the Hyatt

How will it work for off campus students?

They are likely only worried about testing for people in dorms. They can't control the student health in classes.

Yeah, the hypocrisy is that all the students in the dorms can be tested clear and then they go to class and get exposed to off-campus kids who are infected...

Like we said, a sh*tshow.

[Yankeewave]

tulane is actually doing a better job than most schools from what i have read. in another thread, we discussed Notre Dame and how their campus is a bit of a bubble, which makes it easier. they started class yesterday and already have the first student that tested positive. their process was not as good though - they had students take a test prior to leaving from home, which is kind of pointless with such a national student body since more than half of them probably had to fly there.

[WaveProf]

tulane is actually doing a better job than most schools from what i have read. in another thread, we discussed Notre Dame and how their campus is a bit of a bubble, which makes it easier. they started class yesterday and already have the first student that tested positive. their process was not as good though - they had students take a test prior to leaving from home, which is kind of pointless with such a national student body since more than half of them probably had to fly there.

When a university (tulane) is (1) ignoring the advice of their own med school and (2) predicating a lot of decisions on some assumptions tthat are delusional, it is tough for me to say that they are doing better than "most" schools. They've spent some money and had some innovative ideas, but they ignore holes in their own logic. The most dangerous person is always the one that over-values their own knowledge/opinion/perspective.

[Fan Since '54]

Prof, I'd like to expand on "the most dangerous person" theory. That person who takes a test and comes up negative could theoretically take the test just one day later and come up positive.

Fan since '54

[WaveProf]

Blowing up on twitter today, and very relevant:

https://twitter.com/jwolfe504/status/12 ... 4647078914

[PeteRasche]

Blowing up on twitter today, and very relevant:

https://twitter.com/jwolfe504/status/12 ... 4647078914

I think it's safe to say the majority of faculty at every preschool, kindergarten, elementary school, middle school, high school, and university are uncomfortable with returning to in-person learning.

[windywave]

Blowing up on twitter today, and very relevant:

https://twitter.com/jwolfe504/status/12 ... 4647078914

[wave-em in]

From the fan site Saintsreport.com

Here is what Tulane is doing (and has been since July 27)

EVERY INCOMING student and faculty are being tested then housed at the Hyatt for 3 days. You are immediately tested... Results in 24 hrs. Then released to campus if negative. . They are doing 1000 per day. Working 7 days a week. So far they are at 9500 plus. 2 more weeks to go.

Tulane set up own lab to test samples. Tulane has it where every student and faculty receive an email with a qscan. You show up, they scan and take test and get email with result in 24 hr.

There is much more but I'm on phone so typing all is a bit hard.

They are the top university in the US with testing. He said the President (Tulane lol) just requested that they test all underclassmen once a week after classes start. So he is working on that now. That he is a HUGE believer in testing. More data the better.

Anecdotes - incoming student is daughter of Harvard professor and MIT Dean... Said they were blown away at what Tulane has done. Couldn't believe they were able to do this and quite envious.
Another Harvard professor (infectious disease) is down at primate center and they are thinking the current strain is less than it was in March. Take that for what its worth. But the primates are showing less severity now.

Would love to post more and may tomorrow when at computer.

Oh he did say they catching absolute hell from City of NO because their testing is accounting for 40 % of what is reported daily. Lolol.

A university.... Testing almost as much as a city with unlimited resources.

My comment to him was this is exactly what has me so upset. Tulane could put this together in 5 weeks... Federal govt has had 6 months. Let that sink in. Where there is a will there is a way.

[gerryb323]

From the fan site Saintsreport.com

Here is what Tulane is doing (and has been since July 27)

EVERY INCOMING student and faculty are being tested then housed at the Hyatt for 3 days. You are immediately tested... Results in 24 hrs. Then released to campus if negative. . They are doing 1000 per day. Working 7 days a week. So far they are at 9500 plus. 2 more weeks to go.

Tulane set up own lab to test samples. Tulane has it where every student and faculty receive an email with a qscan. You show up, they scan and take test and get email with result in 24 hr.

There is much more but I'm on phone so typing all is a bit hard.

They are the top university in the US with testing. He said the President (Tulane lol) just requested that they test all underclassmen once a week after classes start. So he is working on that now. That he is a HUGE believer in testing. More data the better.

Anecdotes - incoming student is daughter of Harvard professor and MIT Dean... Said they were blown away at what Tulane has done. Couldn't believe they were able to do this and quite envious.
Another Harvard professor (infectious disease) is down at primate center and they are thinking the current strain is less than it was in March. Take that for what its worth. But the primates are showing less severity now.

Would love to post more and may tomorrow when at computer.

Oh he did say they catching absolute hell from City of NO because their testing is accounting for 40 % of what is reported daily. Lolol.

A university.... Testing almost as much as a city with unlimited resources.

My comment to him was this is exactly what has me so upset. Tulane could put this together in 5 weeks... Federal govt has had 6 months. Let that sink in. Where there is a will there is a way.

Great on Tulane.
Also, someone doesn't know the finances of the city!

[PeteRasche]

From the fan site Saintsreport.com

Here is what Tulane is doing (and has been since July 27)

EVERY INCOMING student and faculty are being tested then housed at the Hyatt for 3 days. You are immediately tested... Results in 24 hrs. Then released to campus if negative. . They are doing 1000 per day. Working 7 days a week. So far they are at 9500 plus. 2 more weeks to go.

Tulane set up own lab to test samples. Tulane has it where every student and faculty receive an email with a qscan. You show up, they scan and take test and get email with result in 24 hr.

There is much more but I'm on phone so typing all is a bit hard.

They are the top university in the US with testing. He said the President (Tulane lol) just requested that they test all underclassmen once a week after classes start. So he is working on that now. That he is a HUGE believer in testing. More data the better.

Anecdotes - incoming student is daughter of Harvard professor and MIT Dean... Said they were blown away at what Tulane has done. Couldn't believe they were able to do this and quite envious.
Another Harvard professor (infectious disease) is down at primate center and they are thinking the current strain is less than it was in March. Take that for what its worth. But the primates are showing less severity now.

Would love to post more and may tomorrow when at computer.

Oh he did say they catching absolute hell from City of NO because their testing is accounting for 40 % of what is reported daily. Lolol.

A university.... Testing almost as much as a city with unlimited resources.

My comment to him was this is exactly what has me so upset. Tulane could put this together in 5 weeks... Federal govt has had 6 months. Let that sink in. Where there is a will there is a way.

Great on Tulane.
Also, someone doesn't know the finances of the city!

Gerry, exactly my two comments. Very impressed with what Tulane is pulling off (assuming this is all true) and would love to see it get some recognition in the press. Also... what city ANYWHERE has "unlimited resources"???

[WaveProf]

From the fan site Saintsreport.com

Here is what Tulane is doing (and has been since July 27)

EVERY INCOMING student and faculty are being tested then housed at the Hyatt for 3 days. You are immediately tested... Results in 24 hrs. Then released to campus if negative. . They are doing 1000 per day. Working 7 days a week. So far they are at 9500 plus. 2 more weeks to go.

Tulane set up own lab to test samples. Tulane has it where every student and faculty receive an email with a qscan. You show up, they scan and take test and get email with result in 24 hr.

There is much more but I'm on phone so typing all is a bit hard.

They are the top university in the US with testing. He said the President (Tulane lol) just requested that they test all underclassmen once a week after classes start. So he is working on that now. That he is a HUGE believer in testing. More data the better.

Anecdotes - incoming student is daughter of Harvard professor and MIT Dean... Said they were blown away at what Tulane has done. Couldn't believe they were able to do this and quite envious.
Another Harvard professor (infectious disease) is down at primate center and they are thinking the current strain is less than it was in March. Take that for what its worth. But the primates are showing less severity now.

Would love to post more and may tomorrow when at computer.

Oh he did say they catching absolute hell from City of NO because their testing is accounting for 40 % of what is reported daily. Lolol.

A university.... Testing almost as much as a city with unlimited resources.

My comment to him was this is exactly what has me so upset. Tulane could put this together in 5 weeks... Federal govt has had 6 months. Let that sink in. Where there is a will there is a way.

Students dont have to STAY in the Hyatt those three days, free to roam. And their parents, whom they are allowed to hang out with, aren't tested.

Tulane is using paper and scissors (expensive paper and scissors) to pretend like they are actually doing something. It's a sham. But the parents will buy it enough to pay for dorm money for 4 weeks (and not get refunded for the other 11)

[WaveProf]

I think it's safe to say the majority of faculty at every preschool, kindergarten, elementary school, middle school, high school, and university are uncomfortable with returning to in-person learning.
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I think it is less a matter that the faculty are uncomfortable, as it is the fact that Tulane keeps bragging to parents about how faculty are comfortable and how faculty had input. If they wanted to end around the faculty and ignore their concerns, that's one thing. But then don't lie in your propaganda.