Doctors, help me out here
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Doctors, help me out here
This story was suggested in my browser based on my interest in Tulane. If I'm reading it right, it's a study of new polio vaccines because so many people are now anti-vaxxers that polio is making a comeback?
https://www.newswire.ca/fr/news-release ... 31690.html
https://www.newswire.ca/fr/news-release ... 31690.html
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As we speak smallpox is the only viral disease that has been eradicated on the planet (except for a few samples in deep freeze in places like a little edifice on Buford Highway in Atlanta. I remember seeing posters offering $10K rewards for smallpox. There has been a lot of hope that Polio would be the second; however, there has been a bit of an increase in polio in the area of SE Asia and the Philippines. I am not sure that it is the anti-vaxers as much as some of the more primitive areas in a poor nation.
The last data I saw mentioned about 500 cases; this is a bit disconcerting because it is a very contagious respiratory disease with a lot of complications. the Sabin vaccine is extremely effective; the convenience of an oral vaccine makes it very easy to distribute. It is a "live" virus, so it makes a sort of mild infection to stimulate immunity. The salk vaccine, which was the original, is an inactivated virus, so has to be given by shot.
To be honest, the anti-vaccine people do convey a risk of a new outbreak of polio here in the U.S. If someone were to come to the U.S to an area where lots of people have not received the vaccines, it could spread pretty quickly. COVID might be a help in the case; since travel to and from Oceania and SE Asia has been curtailed greatly. At least this is what my opinion is on this.
The last data I saw mentioned about 500 cases; this is a bit disconcerting because it is a very contagious respiratory disease with a lot of complications. the Sabin vaccine is extremely effective; the convenience of an oral vaccine makes it very easy to distribute. It is a "live" virus, so it makes a sort of mild infection to stimulate immunity. The salk vaccine, which was the original, is an inactivated virus, so has to be given by shot.
To be honest, the anti-vaccine people do convey a risk of a new outbreak of polio here in the U.S. If someone were to come to the U.S to an area where lots of people have not received the vaccines, it could spread pretty quickly. COVID might be a help in the case; since travel to and from Oceania and SE Asia has been curtailed greatly. At least this is what my opinion is on this.
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Speaking of vaccines, it probably has not been on lost on the medical and wider community that the "regular" flu season has been very light to nonexistent. Is that because people heeded the warning that a regular flu shot could charge up the immune system better vs. COVID so more people got the jab? Usually by this time I know some relative or friend who has had the flu but this year nada. I got my regular flu shot in early October and admit that since I retired and having had the flu shot conga line at work, I sometimes blew it off.
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I would guess it's because there is way less person to person interaction and people are somewhat more careful/cleanTUPF wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:40 am Speaking of vaccines, it probably has not been on lost on the medical and wider community that the "regular" flu season has been very light to nonexistent. Is that because people heeded the warning that a regular flu shot could charge up the immune system better vs. COVID so more people got the jab? Usually by this time I know some relative or friend who has had the flu but this year nada. I got my regular flu shot in early October and admit that since I retired and having had the flu shot conga line at work, I sometimes blew it off.
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Bingo. The obvious answer staring me right in the face. I'll have that second cup of caffeine now.gerryb323 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:49 amI would guess it's because there is way less person to person interaction and people are somewhat more careful/cleanTUPF wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:40 am Speaking of vaccines, it probably has not been on lost on the medical and wider community that the "regular" flu season has been very light to nonexistent. Is that because people heeded the warning that a regular flu shot could charge up the immune system better vs. COVID so more people got the jab? Usually by this time I know some relative or friend who has had the flu but this year nada. I got my regular flu shot in early October and admit that since I retired and having had the flu shot conga line at work, I sometimes blew it off.

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My kids have been sick three times this year already, twice bad enough that we had them tested for COVID (both negative), but the most recent keeping them out of school for four days with a fever (even though no other symptoms). So it might not be flu but kids always find a way to spread germs...
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My one school-age kid is 100% virtual, so we really don't have much interaction with the outside world!
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My daughter works part-time at WDW; for those of you going there look for Amanda in the France or Canada pavilions at Epcot. She has not yet received the vaccine, and none of the cast members have heard anything about whether they can get it. I fully expect that once the Janssen and/or Astra-Zeneca vaccines are available, the mouse will have mass vaccination stations for all of the cast members to get vaccinated, particularly those with regular contact with the public. Disney says that they hope to go back to normal by next year, but that they are planning to have the mask requirements in place through 2021.
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Not gonna lie the smallpox vaccine kicked my @zz when I got it before I deployed
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Wow, it never occurred to me that folks don’t routinely get the smallpox vaccine as kids like we did in the 60s. I bet it was a lot tougher as an adult.krewe of ham and eggs wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:48 pm Not gonna lie the smallpox vaccine kicked my @zz when I got it before I deployed
And leave it to the military to line you up and the medics hit you in each arm in a conga line.

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My grandfather went to Korea in the Army at 18. He tells a story about the vaccination line where all the recruits were lined up out the door in two lines. When you got to the nurses giving the shot, one would jab you in one arm and one in the the other simultaneously. In his telling, as he got towards the front, a guy a few spots ahead in the adjacent line passed out. My grandfather looked at a nearby nurse and said in his thick Appalachian accent a rougher version of, "Dang, that must be some bad stuff you're giving out." The orderly replied, "Heck, he hasn't even had his yet." Poor guy saw the needles and lost it.. To this day Grandpa has no idea what was in those shots.TUPF wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:18 pmWow, it never occurred to me that folks don’t routinely get the smallpox vaccine as kids like we did in the 60s. I bet it was a lot tougher as an adult.krewe of ham and eggs wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:48 pm Not gonna lie the smallpox vaccine kicked my @zz when I got it before I deployed
And leave it to the military to line you up and the medics hit you in each arm in a conga line.![]()

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No conga line...went into a room with a sealed door with a medic. They put the poker thing into a vial and stabbed my left shoulder a few times. Gave me a manual on how to treat the area and dispose of the bandages. Flu like symptoms, swollen glands, and a dime size blister at the shot site... good timesTUPF wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:18 pmWow, it never occurred to me that folks don’t routinely get the smallpox vaccine as kids like we did in the 60s. I bet it was a lot tougher as an adult.krewe of ham and eggs wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:48 pm Not gonna lie the smallpox vaccine kicked my @zz when I got it before I deployed
And leave it to the military to line you up and the medics hit you in each arm in a conga line.![]()
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All of that and a paycheck too?!?!