Students Required to be Vaccinated
Students Required to be Vaccinated
Tulane announced yesterday that students are required to be vaccinated for Covid in order to enroll in the fall. There is room for exceptions. Not surprising and that's no big deal for any of us. There was another story out today about the Saints considering requiring fans to be vaccinated in order to attend games at the dome. Seems like a logistical nightmare. Would TU consider doing the same? There is a big difference in that the Saints play indoors.
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That really surprises me but we're a private institution and no one has a right to attend Tulane so I guess we can do it.
It will be interesting to see if and how much it affects enrollment. I would expect we will see more cases of upperclassmen leaving than incoming frosh switching to other schools.
Will also be interesting to see if some student with a pre-existing condition, who legitimately can't be vaccinated because of it, brings a lawsuit.
It will be interesting to see if and how much it affects enrollment. I would expect we will see more cases of upperclassmen leaving than incoming frosh switching to other schools.
Will also be interesting to see if some student with a pre-existing condition, who legitimately can't be vaccinated because of it, brings a lawsuit.
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The mandate allows for medical and religious exceptions.PeteRasche wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:33 am Will also be interesting to see if some student with a pre-existing condition, who legitimately can't be vaccinated because of it, brings a lawsuit.
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It doesn't surprise me very much. Tulane already mandates some things that might otherwise be considered optional. As a junior I was told to go get a meningitis booster because the original vaccine I had had a shorter lifespan. Meningitis boosters aren't generally more broadly required but Tulane has had that rule on the books since the 1990s I believe.
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My bad, I completely read your post as "no exceptions". Disregard!TU77CAL82 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:36 amThe mandate allows for medical and religious exceptions.PeteRasche wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:33 am Will also be interesting to see if some student with a pre-existing condition, who legitimately can't be vaccinated because of it, brings a lawsuit.
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Tulane already required various vaccines. My kids have to be vaccinated against all kinds of things for public school. This is just another shot.
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If the world today wasn't so stupidly political with members of two parties just plain refusing to do anything that they decide was mandated by the other party (because they heard it on their favorite news channel or saw it on social media), then it would not even be a discussion point.
Unfortunately, it now is.
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My kid will be a Fr. next year at Xavier University (Cincinnati) and they aren't requiring it yet, but if it gets full FDA clearance then they are strongly considering making it mandatory as well.
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When you consider that I had to get certain vaccines in ‘95 (which happens to be the last time I went to a doctor) in order to enroll, this really isn’t anything new. Unless the federal government changes the law (or writes a new one) I don’t think they can legally ask to see your vaccine card to attend sporting events. I don’t think it will come to that.
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I don't know why they couldn't. If they wanted you to stand on your head and show them you were HIV negative they could. They would severely limit attendance, so they wouldn't, but they could.waverider wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 4:36 pm When you consider that I had to get certain vaccines in ‘95 (which happens to be the last time I went to a doctor) in order to enroll, this really isn’t anything new. Unless the federal government changes the law (or writes a new one) I don’t think they can legally ask to see your vaccine card to attend sporting events. I don’t think it will come to that.
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They probably could ask but the logistical nightmare would be beyond the palewaverider wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 4:36 pm When you consider that I had to get certain vaccines in ‘95 (which happens to be the last time I went to a doctor) in order to enroll, this really isn’t anything new. Unless the federal government changes the law (or writes a new one) I don’t think they can legally ask to see your vaccine card to attend sporting events. I don’t think it will come to that.
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HiV is considered a disability IIRC so the ADA would applygerryb323 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 6:16 pmI don't know why they couldn't. If they wanted you to stand on your head and show them you were HIV negative they could. They would severely limit attendance, so they wouldn't, but they could.waverider wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 4:36 pm When you consider that I had to get certain vaccines in ‘95 (which happens to be the last time I went to a doctor) in order to enroll, this really isn’t anything new. Unless the federal government changes the law (or writes a new one) I don’t think they can legally ask to see your vaccine card to attend sporting events. I don’t think it will come to that.
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Fine, strep negative thenwindywave wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 6:56 pmHiV is considered a disability IIRC so the ADA would applygerryb323 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 6:16 pmI don't know why they couldn't. If they wanted you to stand on your head and show them you were HIV negative they could. They would severely limit attendance, so they wouldn't, but they could.waverider wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 4:36 pm When you consider that I had to get certain vaccines in ‘95 (which happens to be the last time I went to a doctor) in order to enroll, this really isn’t anything new. Unless the federal government changes the law (or writes a new one) I don’t think they can legally ask to see your vaccine card to attend sporting events. I don’t think it will come to that.
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That worksgerryb323 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 7:18 pmFine, strep negative thenwindywave wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 6:56 pmHiV is considered a disability IIRC so the ADA would applygerryb323 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 6:16 pmI don't know why they couldn't. If they wanted you to stand on your head and show them you were HIV negative they could. They would severely limit attendance, so they wouldn't, but they could.waverider wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 4:36 pm When you consider that I had to get certain vaccines in ‘95 (which happens to be the last time I went to a doctor) in order to enroll, this really isn’t anything new. Unless the federal government changes the law (or writes a new one) I don’t think they can legally ask to see your vaccine card to attend sporting events. I don’t think it will come to that.
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"Full" FDA clearance will happen by July at the latest, so it will happen.SlidellWave wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 12:14 pm My kid will be a Fr. next year at Xavier University (Cincinnati) and they aren't requiring it yet, but if it gets full FDA clearance then they are strongly considering making it mandatory as well.
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New York State is using an app to track who has been vaccinated, and this fall the Bills and the Sabres will require proof of vaccination to attend their games.waverider wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 4:36 pm When you consider that I had to get certain vaccines in ‘95 (which happens to be the last time I went to a doctor) in order to enroll, this really isn’t anything new. Unless the federal government changes the law (or writes a new one) I don’t think they can legally ask to see your vaccine card to attend sporting events. I don’t think it will come to that.
Without some sort of third party system, whether from the private sector or from the government, any requirement at a sporting event will be a logistical nightmare.
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I was thinking this falls under HIPPA laws. If not, then I guess they could.
Maybe a medical professional can answer this, but doesn’t a vaccine just protect the vaccinated person by helping the body’s immune system fight off the virus? I don’t understand the infatuation with worrying about unvaccinated people other than to virtue signal. From my understanding, vaccinated people can still catch the virus and pass it on. The vaccine doesn’t kill the virus, but help protect the vaccinated, as I mentioned, from having serious effects. If that’s the case, it shouldn’t matter if vaccinated people are around unvaccinated people since those vaccinated people can still carry and transmit the virus. If the vaccine works, those people should be protected.
I’m asking this as a legitimate question because maybe I’ve misunderstood vaccines my whole life.
I’m sure I’ll end up getting it at some point, especially if Disney requires it for cruises.
Maybe a medical professional can answer this, but doesn’t a vaccine just protect the vaccinated person by helping the body’s immune system fight off the virus? I don’t understand the infatuation with worrying about unvaccinated people other than to virtue signal. From my understanding, vaccinated people can still catch the virus and pass it on. The vaccine doesn’t kill the virus, but help protect the vaccinated, as I mentioned, from having serious effects. If that’s the case, it shouldn’t matter if vaccinated people are around unvaccinated people since those vaccinated people can still carry and transmit the virus. If the vaccine works, those people should be protected.
I’m asking this as a legitimate question because maybe I’ve misunderstood vaccines my whole life.
I’m sure I’ll end up getting it at some point, especially if Disney requires it for cruises.
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The mRNA vaccines are literally preventing infection. So no, if your vaccine works, you cannot get COVID and pass it along.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021 ... cines.html
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021 ... cines.html
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Precisely. So every person that gets vaccinated is one more break in the chain of possible infections. It protects not only you but those you interact with. The faster we get a high level of folks in the population vaccinated, the faster we can return to January 2020 activities.gerryb323 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:59 pm The mRNA vaccines are literally preventing infection. So no, if your vaccine works, you cannot get COVID and pass it along.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021 ... cines.html
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Minus the whole "losing to everyone in basketball thing", hopefully.tulaneoutlaw wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:03 pm The faster we get a high level of folks in the population vaccinated, the faster we can return to January 2020 activities.
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It protects the vaccinated person like I said. That article further proves my point that vaccinated people shouldn’t be worried about non vaccinated people since they are protected.gerryb323 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:59 pm The mRNA vaccines are literally preventing infection. So no, if your vaccine works, you cannot get COVID and pass it along.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021 ... cines.html
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Sure. But if you can't get infected you can't spread it eitherwaverider wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:32 pmIt protects the vaccinated person like I said. That article further proves my point that vaccinated people shouldn’t be worried about non vaccinated people since they are protected.gerryb323 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:59 pm The mRNA vaccines are literally preventing infection. So no, if your vaccine works, you cannot get COVID and pass it along.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021 ... cines.html
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I may have overlooked it, but I didn’t see anything in that article that says vaccinated people can’t spread it. Vaccines don’t kill viruses, they only boost the immune system against them.gerryb323 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:34 pmSure. But if you can't get infected you can't spread it eitherwaverider wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:32 pmIt protects the vaccinated person like I said. That article further proves my point that vaccinated people shouldn’t be worried about non vaccinated people since they are protected.gerryb323 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:59 pm The mRNA vaccines are literally preventing infection. So no, if your vaccine works, you cannot get COVID and pass it along.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021 ... cines.html
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https://fortune.com/2021/04/01/its-offi ... id-19/amp/waverider wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:35 pmI may have overlooked it, but I didn’t see anything in that article that says vaccinated people can’t spread it. Vaccines don’t kill viruses, they only boost the immune system against them.gerryb323 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:34 pmSure. But if you can't get infected you can't spread it eitherwaverider wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:32 pmIt protects the vaccinated person like I said. That article further proves my point that vaccinated people shouldn’t be worried about non vaccinated people since they are protected.gerryb323 wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:59 pm The mRNA vaccines are literally preventing infection. So no, if your vaccine works, you cannot get COVID and pass it along.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021 ... cines.html
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Thanks. That explained it the best of anything I’ve read. So based on that, vaccinated people with no symptoms are less likely to spread it than those with symptoms.
I’m just glad things are getting back to normal and I don’t need to worry about forgetting my mask when I go places!
I’m just glad things are getting back to normal and I don’t need to worry about forgetting my mask when I go places!
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