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That's fine. I'm just saying that when I posted this, there wasn't a duplicate, unlike the way you post
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I wonder how much say current members will have in terms of being able to veto certain picks. I imagine ecu may not like charlotte for example and I'm sure we would veto la tech as would UCF and usf FIU or fau. That may mean a team like Georgia st has a better chance since there is no Georgia team in the AAC currently

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I'd veto ULL before La Tech. Don't want either one but just setting things out.

UAB & USM roads have been exhausted but Army hasn't? OK.

If we can't add an MWC right off the bat we should keep our powder dry & double up twice in baseball.
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The military now has there own network. I did say “again”, but there is a little twist this time around. And Army is not the same Army this time either. Their play on the field has improved so much. The Oklahoma game last year was a dog fight.

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They are legit good but STILL fool's gold.
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All interesting above. I'll join the spitballing party.

It's about eyeballs for AAC. Army provides those. Agree this might be an opportunity to lever Colorado teams out of MWC for all the good reasons noted too. NAVY and others will stop BSU from ever being invited. BYU is its own thing.

Another sidelight. UCONN collected a ton of dough when BE teams left. Does it rebate that to BE exiting teams? I guess it just has to pay regular exit fees to AAC but it would be really noteworthy if there was a special clawback clause to recapture funds from USF, UC or UConn for collecting the BE and related NCAA MBB fees and then bolting within a couple of years.

I cannot see AAC accepting UCONN as a football only member. Period.

I cannot see AAC accepting any new member from CUSA/SB. Period.


I doubt WSU is thrown a football lifeline for say 2025 but it's in the realm of possibility.


AAC could stand pat and simply run a Big XII football type modified roundrobin (limited to 8 or 9 games) and have top two teams play in championship game.


But wait there's more: What ESPN's input on all this? Any consequences to new media contract?


Finally UCONN is being announced this week because of standard year notice to avoid extra penalty for exiting. Army and BYU as football indies can join anytime but MWC teams would need to make a move this week to be effective for 2020 season without massive extra fees. I'd be surprised and impressed if Aresco could do that in a week. Doubt it though.

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glad to see 50 percent of this topic is arguing over too many threads/merge it

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If the AAC really has designs on being “power” 6, it needs to be real thoughtful here. Just grabbing a mid major school is going down the same road that C-USA went down and we saw where it ended up. I think that the only options are Army or BYU for football and another Wichita type basketball/ other school. Mike Aresco has proven to be a strong commissioner and has made the right moves along the way. This is apparently not a surprise, so hopefully they have a good plan.

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Baywave1 wrote:All interesting above. I'll join the spitballing party.

It's about eyeballs for AAC. Army provides those. Agree this might be an opportunity to lever Colorado teams out of MWC for all the good reasons noted too. NAVY and others will stop BSU from ever being invited. BYU is its own thing.

Another sidelight. UCONN collected a ton of dough when BE teams left. Does it rebate that to BE exiting teams? I guess it just has to pay regular exit fees to AAC but it would be really noteworthy if there was a special clawback clause to recapture funds from USF, UC or UConn for collecting the BE and related NCAA MBB fees and then bolting within a couple of years.

I cannot see AAC accepting UCONN as a football only member. Period.

I cannot see AAC accepting any new member from CUSA/SB. Period.


I doubt WSU is thrown a football lifeline for say 2025 but it's in the realm of possibility.


AAC could stand pat and simply run a Big XII football type modified roundrobin (limited to 8 or 9 games) and have top two teams play in championship game.


But wait there's more: What ESPN's input on all this? Any consequences to new media contract?


Finally UCONN is being announced this week because of standard year notice to avoid extra penalty for exiting. Army and BYU as football indies can join anytime but MWC teams would need to make a move this week to be effective for 2020 season without massive extra fees. I'd be surprised and impressed if Aresco could do that in a week. Doubt it though.
If we can add Boise and Navy gets in the way then Navy can go join UConn. That's academic, though. I don't see Boise wanting to leave. I think the right CUSA program could develop into a much better AAC program than Army could. Who? Don't rightly know.

Good thoughts, bay, but a shade too categorical.
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Why would navy stop Boise joining? Travel costs?

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LG, Thanks but I was spitballing which by law and custom requires categorical targets. :green wink:

BSU is probably too far west including all other negatives. That is tbd. However no doubt that like BYU, it brings most bang for buck in football. So yes it could happen.

Latest press reports seem to confirm AAC now has 27 month notice clause in addition to $10 million exit fee. As Pete always says, $ solves any problem. I assume UCONN leaves next year and it pays more. That is tbd.

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tulaneoutlaw wrote:Why would navy stop Boise joining? Travel costs?
Just my guess about Navy but Gladchuck went publicly ballistic over BSU's tactics on its BE departure and Chet is still there. His reaction by any definition was not "collegial." I couldn't quickly find articles to support my memory but perhaps others recall this and can search better than I can.

Look I'm not on Chuck's speed-dial so this is simply my off the wall speculation but still Gladchuck's comments at the time (I do trust my memory BTW) were so blunt that I simply don't see kiss-and-forget about it. But again who knows?

In short Gladchuck questioned BSU asking for disproportionate conference TV payments (which MW approved after BE/AAC rejected it) while Navy negotiated keeping Army game receipts out of BE/AAC conference bucket (for at least a few years.) Never claimed these folks were consistent.


So at minimum for BSU to join, it would have to accept "standard" conference equal revenue splits. Again just my off the wall predicting.

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Maybe Colorado State as a dark horse? New stadium...they’ve spent big on coaches. Wichita State was exploring bringing football back a few years ago...don’t know if they would get a look at full membership?
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Yankeewave wrote:i feel like this should be on the main board.
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Johnny Mac wrote:glad to see 50 percent of this topic is arguing over too many threads/merge it

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Johnny Mac wrote:glad to see 50 percent of this topic is arguing over too many threads/merge it

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One thing to add. If the AAC sticks at 11 teams, there is little reason to have a championship game. You'll play almost every team in the league each year so having a stand alone regular season champ will happen naturally. If you play an additional game, most years you will have a rematch and you could hand your best team record wise an additional loss. That could be the difference in making the NY6 and missing out to another conference. Oklahoma managed to win their championship game over a team they already beat the last two years, but a loss in either one and the Big 12 misses the playoff. Not really worth it imo

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tulaneoutlaw wrote:One thing to add. If the AAC sticks at 11 teams, there is little reason to have a championship game. You'll play almost every team in the league each year so having a stand alone regular season champ will happen naturally. If you play an additional game, most years you will have a rematch and you could hand your best team record wise an additional loss. That could be the difference in making the NY6 and missing out to another conference. Oklahoma managed to win their championship game over a team they already beat the last two years, but a loss in either one and the Big 12 misses the playoff. Not really worth it imo
I don’t know the details of the new TV deal, but I’d imagine it includes a conference championship game which the conference likely wouldn’t want to give up. The dollar amount will likely be lowered already because of the basketball programs leaving.
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tulaneoutlaw wrote:One thing to add. If the AAC sticks at 11 teams, there is little reason to have a championship game. You'll play almost every team in the league each year so having a stand alone regular season champ will happen naturally. If you play an additional game, most years you will have a rematch and you could hand your best team record wise an additional loss. That could be the difference in making the NY6 and missing out to another conference. Oklahoma managed to win their championship game over a team they already beat the last two years, but a loss in either one and the Big 12 misses the playoff. Not really worth it imo
I don’t know the details of the new TV deal, but I’d imagine it includes a conference championship game which the conference likely wouldn’t want to give up. The dollar amount will likely be lowered already because of the basketball programs leaving.
That's probably true and money is usually the main argument for a championship game anyway. If so, add a 12th team and keep the divisions.

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I thought of another potential school that has been a bit of a football powerhouse, albeit previously in FCS until several years ago. Georgia Southern is located in a state that has one of the biggest media markets in the U.S. While it is currently in Sun belt, it has made the move up to FBS rather well, having won both bowl games it has played in since the move. Just a thought; others out there are far wiser than I with regards to pluses and minuses of such a program...
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AO Sig wrote:I thought of another potential school that has been a bit of a football powerhouse, albeit previously in FCS until several years ago. Georgia Southern is located in a state that has one of the biggest media markets in the U.S. While it is currently in Sun belt, it has made the move up to FBS rather well, having won both bowl games it has played in since the move. Just a thought; others out there are far wiser than I with regards to pluses and minuses of such a program...
I think Georgia State would be more valuable because of the Atlanta market. Although, UGA dominates the entire Georgia market. Having lived there albeit years ago, even Tech struggles for airtime. Team playing in the largest city in the state gets overlooked by SEC school in the same state. Sound familiar?

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outside of Army, regardless of whom we get, it's going to be a step down from UConn... keeping in mind that NOBODY out west is a viable option.

Army probably wouldn't happen because they would have to move the Army/Navy game off of its "only game of the week" weekend... I guess moving it to Thanksgiving weekend wouldn't be that harsh, but who knows how the PTB at both schools would feel about losing that special spot for the game? But, Army would be the only team we add that wouldn't be a "step down" for a P6... It would also require Navy moving to the East division to make sure their game happens annually. That would mean Cincy would most likely move West.

If we are "stepping downward", I'd look to FIU before I'd even dream of considering Ga State or UNCC.. that adds the Miami "market"... which would give the AAC exposure in pretty much all of FL with Orlando and Tampa already on board. FAU introduces the Lane Kiffin factor and you can just stop right there!
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