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LawGreenie wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:55 pm Back when I was in law school, the ABA and Tulane had rules restricting how much you could work during your 1L year. I think those have been relaxed, but not sure how D1 practice schedule and travel would be viewed .
Participation in D1 athletics is legally not "work." Otherwise, all sorts of labor laws would apply.
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GretnaGrn wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:32 pm
LawGreenie wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:55 pm Back when I was in law school, the ABA and Tulane had rules restricting how much you could work during your 1L year. I think those have been relaxed, but not sure how D1 practice schedule and travel would be viewed .
Participation in D1 athletics is legally not "work." Otherwise, all sorts of labor laws would apply.
Part of why they stress the whole "student athlete" thing
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curious how many more pages could be added to the thread just from you lawyers bantering back and forth.. maybe you can stretch the debate into the realm of "guy jumps off a building but gets shot on the way down" argument?

Only then could this reach HWSNBN level

well, maybe.. he's in school working on his MBA, but doing his law program online..... (this is just a stupid example for the lawyers to start their debate)
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I have always found the grad athelete kinda "sus" as the kids say. In undergrad cruise contol to a degree while playing sports is the norm. I am not sure cruise control in grad school is an option in a lot of programs.
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Actually grads do have it easy if they choose. In just he last week a few ND players returning for a grad year have openly talked about how they will only be taking two courses so they'll be in school for what they want- to enhance their NFL stock.
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wavedom wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:19 pm Actually grads do have it easy if they choose. In just he last week a few ND players returning for a grad year have openly talked about how they will only be taking two courses so they'll be in school for what they want- to enhance their NFL stock.
You are right, hence the "sus" as them actually being grad students, and no offense to them. I did a full load of History grad school. The thought of reading 3-4+ plus books a week, writing, researching on the side, and fitting team meetings, workouts, and practice in is beyond me.
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Poseidon wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:25 pm
wavedom wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:19 pm Actually grads do have it easy if they choose. In just he last week a few ND players returning for a grad year have openly talked about how they will only be taking two courses so they'll be in school for what they want- to enhance their NFL stock.
You are right, hence the "sus" as them actually being grad students, and no offense to them. I did a full load of History grad school. The thought of reading 3-4+ plus books a week, writing, researching on the side, and fitting team meetings, workouts, and practice in is beyond me.
Don't forget adding a teaching load.

FWIW, law school was VASTLY easier than grad school in history.
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GretnaGrn wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:24 pm

FWIW, law school was VASTLY easier than grad school in history.
While I think both degrees vary widely based on institution and approach, I think if you averaged it out, that would prove a consistent trend.
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My comment was whimsical while thinking George Gipp was like 26 when he died at ND after allegedly playing for a ton of schools. That scenario better not happen here. I enjoyed reading the insights of others above. Thanks.

My undertone is perhaps applauding Willie’s approach. Balance the now with a forty year decision. Both these guys are very bright. I wish them well. Football and academics are not mutually exclusive. Too bad each has chosen in effect to find glory as itinerant semi-pros and forego the academics on the football dime.

Meanwhile it’s all conjecture but too bad Scott didn’t listen to his better angel and come here either time when he had the chance. He was tailor made for Willie’s SHSU offense and would have thrived at Tulane. He still is the most effective highest classification HS QB I’ve ever seen play. To say he was spectacular in high school is an understatement.
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