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Christmas come early. The Very Reverend Hugh Freeze resigns from Ole Miss this pm. A cheater & a transparent sleaze. Not a bad coach.
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Wow. Something is up there. I wonder if we'll find out what.
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PeteRasche wrote:Wow. Something is up there. I wonder if we'll find out what.
Well...
Helps to clear up some of the confusion about how Freeze was able to convince so many talented football players who might be rubbed the wrong way by Oxford, MS to spend 3-4 years of their life there.
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Freeze was a serial cheater. He provoked the other SEC schools into forgetting Roy Kramer's anti-snitching command. The fact that he was a serial cheater in his family life is gravy. He had the nerve to claim he was persecuted for his faith. When isn't that a loud warning horn about a college coach?
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PeteRasche wrote:Wow. Something is up there. I wonder if we'll find out what.
As stated above, they found a phone call to an escort service in Tampa.

Ole Mess in a heap of trouble.

For the most part, I think Tulane has always found coaches that seem to be of high moral character. Ed Conroy's biggest fault was not buying enough ice cream.
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The juice is loose and they have a job opening, just saying
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Funny. I'm watching The Blind Side for the 10th time.
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1309th WAVE wrote:
PeteRasche wrote:Wow. Something is up there. I wonder if we'll find out what.
Well...
Helps to clear up some of the confusion about how Freeze was able to convince so many talented football players who might be rubbed the wrong way by Oxford, MS to spend 3-4 years of their life there.
So he made sure they were rubbed the right way?
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I humbly think yall are wrong about Freeze. If you look beyond the surface you will see that the NCAA scuttled that ship. They were on the attack until to they found somehting. Ole Miss is not a blue blood. Is it a coincidence that this happens at a point when they have been challanging the blue bloods. I would be willing to bet that if the NCAA scrutinized every program like they did Ole Miss at least half would look as bad as they did. Where was this dedicaton when Auburn rented Cam Newton for a year? I don't wish the NCAA secret police on anyone (except possibly LSU).
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Poseidon wrote:I humbly think yall are wrong about Freeze. If you look beyond the surface you will see that the NCAA scuttled that ship. They were on the attack until to they found somehting. Ole Miss is not a blue blood. Is it a coincidence that this happens at a point when they have been challanging the blue bloods. I would be willing to bet that if the NCAA scrutinized every program like they did Ole Miss at least half would look as bad as they did. Where was this dedicaton when Auburn rented Cam Newton for a year? I don't wish the NCAA secret police on anyone (except possibly LSU).
There may be truth here but I'm not a big believer in conspiracies. Real life is not a Ludlum novel. And even if you believe half of any group are bad actors, all the more reason to stay clean and shift the spotlight somewhere else.
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Interesting that Freeze and Oher were blindsided on the same day! :lol:
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The Hugh Freese biography will be titled "Whores and Oher's."
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Poseidon wrote:I humbly think yall are wrong about Freeze. If you look beyond the surface you will see that the NCAA scuttled that ship. They were on the attack until to they found somehting. Ole Miss is not a blue blood. Is it a coincidence that this happens at a point when they have been challanging the blue bloods. I would be willing to bet that if the NCAA scrutinized every program like they did Ole Miss at least half would look as bad as they did. Where was this dedicaton when Auburn rented Cam Newton for a year? I don't wish the NCAA secret police on anyone (except possibly LSU).
Except this was Houston Nutt's lawyer who found the number during discovery
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Poseidon wrote:I humbly think yall are wrong about Freeze. If you look beyond the surface you will see that the NCAA scuttled that ship. They were on the attack until to they found somehting. Ole Miss is not a blue blood. Is it a coincidence that this happens at a point when they have been challanging the blue bloods. I would be willing to bet that if the NCAA scrutinized every program like they did Ole Miss at least half would look as bad as they did. Where was this dedicaton when Auburn rented Cam Newton for a year? I don't wish the NCAA secret police on anyone (except possibly LSU).

Not a which hunt when one of your players (or his step dad) admits to being paid. Everyone knew from that first recruiting class that things weren't right in Oxford. The best part of this so far is that the person the University and Freeze were trying to blame for all the bad things they had done, is the one that got Freeze canned. Be careful who you try to blame, they just might know more than you think.

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TUPF wrote:
Poseidon wrote:I humbly think yall are wrong about Freeze. If you look beyond the surface you will see that the NCAA scuttled that ship. They were on the attack until to they found somehting. Ole Miss is not a blue blood. Is it a coincidence that this happens at a point when they have been challanging the blue bloods. I would be willing to bet that if the NCAA scrutinized every program like they did Ole Miss at least half would look as bad as they did. Where was this dedicaton when Auburn rented Cam Newton for a year? I don't wish the NCAA secret police on anyone (except possibly LSU).
There may be truth here but I'm not a big believer in conspiracies. Real life is not a Ludlum novel. And even if you believe half of any group are bad actors, all the more reason to stay clean and shift the spotlight somewhere else.
Ok so I the yall I am referring to are the may be Long Green.
long green wrote: A cheater & a transparent sleaze.
I don't think this a is a Ludlum novel or a conspiracy. Let me restate. The NCAA has compliance departments with incentives to collect "scalps." Though Ole Miss is an SEC school they are still insignificant as far as tv market and political clout. The consensus of most football people outside Mississippi hold the position that Ole miss isn't capable of being a top dog because that is the way it has always been. When Ole Miss got the prized recruiting class that was so much better than any of their previous ones most in college football assumed, without a shred of evidence, that they were cheating. It wasn't a conspiracy, it was the majority of an industry assuming the worst. Ask yourself, if Tulane landed a 5-Star and five or more 4-Stars in a recruiting class a year from now what would everyone else think. Well what happened at Ole Miss is the NCAA investigators, incentivized to get scalps at part of their job, saw a suspect that everyone thought was guilty already. They then proceeded to camp in oxford for 4-5 years with a mission knowing the media and industry was likely on their side. To me what made this unique from other investigations is that the NCAA offered a active Auburn player immunity and anonymity if he would provide oral testimony against Ole Miss. This obvious conflict of interest and how the NCAA ignored it is telling.

On Freeze...what brought him down in the end was not the NCAA rules. It was problem that significant amount of career driven people have...poor relationship skills and lack of self control in that area. I would call that a vice. It took a lot of digging to find this. It certainly wasn't a know problem.
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Gotcha, Poseidon.

Maybe it's the entire SEC that is a Ludlum novel! 8)

I look forward to the time when Tulane 4 and 5 star recruits cause similar head turning. :wink:
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TUPF wrote:Gotcha, Poseidon.

Maybe it's the entire SEC that is a Ludlum novel! 8)

I look forward to the time when Tulane 4 and 5 star recruits cause similar head turning. :wink:
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Poseidon wrote:
TUPF wrote:
Poseidon wrote:I humbly think yall are wrong about Freeze. If you look beyond the surface you will see that the NCAA scuttled that ship. They were on the attack until to they found somehting. Ole Miss is not a blue blood. Is it a coincidence that this happens at a point when they have been challanging the blue bloods. I would be willing to bet that if the NCAA scrutinized every program like they did Ole Miss at least half would look as bad as they did. Where was this dedicaton when Auburn rented Cam Newton for a year? I don't wish the NCAA secret police on anyone (except possibly LSU).
There may be truth here but I'm not a big believer in conspiracies. Real life is not a Ludlum novel. And even if you believe half of any group are bad actors, all the more reason to stay clean and shift the spotlight somewhere else.
Ok so I the yall I am referring to are the may be Long Green.
long green wrote: A cheater & a transparent sleaze.
I don't think this a is a Ludlum novel or a conspiracy. Let me restate. The NCAA has compliance departments with incentives to collect "scalps." Though Ole Miss is an SEC school they are still insignificant as far as tv market and political clout. The consensus of most football people outside Mississippi hold the position that Ole miss isn't capable of being a top dog because that is the way it has always been. When Ole Miss got the prized recruiting class that was so much better than any of their previous ones most in college football assumed, without a shred of evidence, that they were cheating. It wasn't a conspiracy, it was the majority of an industry assuming the worst. Ask yourself, if Tulane landed a 5-Star and five or more 4-Stars in a recruiting class a year from now what would everyone else think. Well what happened at Ole Miss is the NCAA investigators, incentivized to get scalps at part of their job, saw a suspect that everyone thought was guilty already. They then proceeded to camp in oxford for 4-5 years with a mission knowing the media and industry was likely on their side. To me what made this unique from other investigations is that the NCAA offered a active Auburn player immunity and anonymity if he would provide oral testimony against Ole Miss. This obvious conflict of interest and how the NCAA ignored it is telling.

On Freeze...what brought him down in the end was not the NCAA rules. It was problem that significant amount of career driven people have...poor relationship skills and lack of self control in that area. I would call that a vice. It took a lot of digging to find this. It certainly wasn't a know problem.
Do you have some personal connection to the outgoing staff or to Ole Miss in general? It would explain a lot. The NCAA is totally at fault. No, Hugh Freeze was brought down by "poor relationship skills and lack of self-control" in his personal and professional life (which is somehow not a vice). You really want to give it to the NCAA but you also want to exempt the SEC schools who are almost solely responsible for the presence of the NCAA in Oxford. Mark Richt cried foul over the recruiting of Laremy Tunsil. And Mississippi State has an active player who is said to be ratting Ole Miss out. I don't know of any Auburn player doing this but if there is one even you have to notice that Ole Miss is being jumped by a diverse collection of SEC blue bloods and blue collars. Who brought Hugh Freeze down, outside of himself? The SEC, the SEC, the SEC. It's fun to watch.
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Who amongst us has not called an escort service by accident repeatedly?
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windywave wrote:Who amongst us has not called an escort service by accident repeatedly?
You mean it wasn't Papa John's? For the life of me I couldn't figure out why every time I ordered a pizza the delivery person kept taking her clothes off.
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windywave wrote:Who amongst us has not called an escort service by accident repeatedly?
You mean it wasn't Papa John's? For the life of me I couldn't figure out why every time I ordered a pizza the delivery person kept taking her clothes off.
You were in a hidden camera porno, that's different
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long green wrote:
Poseidon wrote:
TUPF wrote:
Poseidon wrote:I humbly think yall are wrong about Freeze. If you look beyond the surface you will see that the NCAA scuttled that ship. They were on the attack until to they found somehting. Ole Miss is not a blue blood. Is it a coincidence that this happens at a point when they have been challanging the blue bloods. I would be willing to bet that if the NCAA scrutinized every program like they did Ole Miss at least half would look as bad as they did. Where was this dedicaton when Auburn rented Cam Newton for a year? I don't wish the NCAA secret police on anyone (except possibly LSU).
There may be truth here but I'm not a big believer in conspiracies. Real life is not a Ludlum novel. And even if you believe half of any group are bad actors, all the more reason to stay clean and shift the spotlight somewhere else.
Ok so I the yall I am referring to are the may be Long Green.
long green wrote: A cheater & a transparent sleaze.
I don't think this a is a Ludlum novel or a conspiracy. Let me restate. The NCAA has compliance departments with incentives to collect "scalps." Though Ole Miss is an SEC school they are still insignificant as far as tv market and political clout. The consensus of most football people outside Mississippi hold the position that Ole miss isn't capable of being a top dog because that is the way it has always been. When Ole Miss got the prized recruiting class that was so much better than any of their previous ones most in college football assumed, without a shred of evidence, that they were cheating. It wasn't a conspiracy, it was the majority of an industry assuming the worst. Ask yourself, if Tulane landed a 5-Star and five or more 4-Stars in a recruiting class a year from now what would everyone else think. Well what happened at Ole Miss is the NCAA investigators, incentivized to get scalps at part of their job, saw a suspect that everyone thought was guilty already. They then proceeded to camp in oxford for 4-5 years with a mission knowing the media and industry was likely on their side. To me what made this unique from other investigations is that the NCAA offered a active Auburn player immunity and anonymity if he would provide oral testimony against Ole Miss. This obvious conflict of interest and how the NCAA ignored it is telling.

On Freeze...what brought him down in the end was not the NCAA rules. It was problem that significant amount of career driven people have...poor relationship skills and lack of self control in that area. I would call that a vice. It took a lot of digging to find this. It certainly wasn't a know problem.
Do you have some personal connection to the outgoing staff or to Ole Miss in general? It would explain a lot. The NCAA is totally at fault. No, Hugh Freeze was brought down by "poor relationship skills and lack of self-control" in his personal and professional life (which is somehow not a vice). You really want to give it to the NCAA but you also want to exempt the SEC schools who are almost solely responsible for the presence of the NCAA in Oxford. Mark Richt cried foul over the recruiting of Laremy Tunsil. And Mississippi State has an active player who is said to be ratting Ole Miss out. I don't know of any Auburn player doing this but if there is one even you have to notice that Ole Miss is being jumped by a diverse collection of SEC blue bloods and blue collars. Who brought Hugh Freeze down, outside of himself? The SEC, the SEC, the SEC. It's fun to watch.
LG, I have no connection to the outgoing staff. I know some people who follow the program pretty closely. As close or closer than we follow Tulane. I have been given the play-by-play over the last few years of what is going on up there. I guess I have just see more of both sides and not just rely on media that counts clicks. I'm not sure how you construed my stating " I would call that a vice" to think I meant it wasn't a vice. I was talking about Freeze, I was simply stating that he shared a vice that a surprising amount of driven successful, powerful, workaholics have. I agree with you on the SEC bringing him down as well. That is the sad part. Not for Freeze, but for the players and people there who weren't trying to bend the rules like Twizzler candy.

windywave wrote:Who amongst us has not called an escort service by accident repeatedly?
- Freeze at a coaches meeting

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So what is the over/under before he gets another head coaching gig? 2.5 years? You know a few CUSA schools are just salivating.
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