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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:10 pm 
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don't mean to advertise, but Bud Light was pretty quick with this - you needed to have watched the game or at least a replay.

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I didn’t watch the game but it starred in the human interest portion of NBC Nightly News this evening. They said it was $12 a can. :lol:

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don't mean to advertise, but Bud Light was pretty quick with this - you needed to have watched the game or at least a replay.

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He not only saved his beers, but he was able to slide in front of the woman next to him, blocking the ball from hitting her.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:36 am 
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Let's be honest, the real story is the two ladies who made an attempt to draw attention to their website by showing off what their website has from seats behind the plate.

And of course, in our modern world, they succeeded with flying colors. One local radio show I had on in the car this morning was having one of them on live later this morning. I suspect they are all booked solid with calls to radio shows across the country. I guess today this is what is called "successful advertising".


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just curious, if someone wins the World Series and nobody watches it, does it count?

This will go down as the lowest rated World Series in history... lower than SF v Detroit in 2012.. games 4 and 5 were below a 6 household rating with barely over 10 million viewers

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just curious, if someone wins the World Series and nobody watches it, does it count?

This will go down as the lowest rated World Series in history... lower than SF v Detroit in 2012.. games 4 and 5 were below a 6 household rating with barely over 10 million viewers

Except in Metro Washington.

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It sure will count to whichever fan base wins. Who cares what ratings say? The sport is doing fine as a whole and seeing two non-traditional powers playing for the title is good for the sport as a whole. I'm sure it'll be back to Yankees-Dodgers next year.


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It sure will count to whichever fan base wins. Who cares what ratings say? The sport is doing fine as a whole and seeing two non-traditional powers playing for the title is good for the sport as a whole. I'm sure it'll be back to Yankees-Dodgers next year.

Ah yes, the good old days of 77/78.
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It sure will count to whichever fan base wins. Who cares what ratings say? The sport is doing fine as a whole and seeing two non-traditional powers playing for the title is good for the sport as a whole. I'm sure it'll be back to Yankees-Dodgers next year.

Ah yes, the good old days of 77/78.
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:lol: Made me chuckle. I was just using those as proxies for the blue bloods/big markets of the sport. We weren't far from that actual match up this year. We're one year out from a Red Sox championship after all.


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Who cares what ratings say? The sport is doing fine as a whole

Is it? It's easy to think everyone is still rabid when your team is in the World Series and all you see is fandom ...
I mean, I love professional baseball, but TV ratings are way down from even a decade ago (save for the years when something special happens, like when the Cubs finally made it to the Series and won). MLB keeps tinkering with rules almost annually to attempt to "solve" the problem. I know polls are polls and a large grain of salt is required, but everything I've seen says Millennials aren't into baseball. I live in a serious baseball town but the new MLS team is outdrawing the baseball team almost every game (except bobblehead nights... Good Lord, gotta get a bobblehead!)

I still try to take my kids to games several times a year but since neither of them are interested in playing despite my efforts (and therefore don't know the rules), an outing is basically an excuse to eat junk food and watch the scoreboard for about 90 minutes before getting bored and wanting to leave. They don't care a bit about what's going on on the field, because there's too much dead time between plays, and I refuse to give them my phone to play with.


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Baseball is just a different animal nowadays. Every team has a regional network deal and there are hardly national games any more. I think Fox and ESPN each do one per week. Big fans do the MLB.tv thing or similar, which also doesn't figure into ratings. Why should anyone else care about the 'Stros and Nats when they have hardly been seen on a national stage? There's not really much storyline there for the casual fan. Heck, how many non-baseball fans could name the Washington team or even knew there was a team in Washington? Even I, a big baseball fan with MLB.tv plan, have only been watching the World Series sporadically. Mostly it's been: check the score after I get the kids down to bed, see if it's close, and watch the last 3 innings if it is.
With so many more entertainment options, your have to really want to watch something.
But baseball is doing fine. The owners are making money. The players are making money. The stories are all about juiced balls and blowhard executives. What more could you want?!

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Pete, I don't think everyone is still rabid for baseball as they once were. Way too many other options for entertainment as gerry and you both point out. World Series games are always sold out so that would be a silly way to evaluate fan fervor, but you also can't use regular season baseball games for a franchise that's bad as Cincinnati is as your only reference point either. I believe that with few exceptions (ahem Tampa Bay Rays playing in St. Pete), fans will follow a winner in all sports. If the Reds suddenly started playing well, fans would show up for that.

I base my assertion of baseball's health on one thing and one thing only. Money. TV contracts for baseball are bigger now than they've ever been. Regional networks get more games on TV than ever before. MLB is considering expansion to new areas. Baseball doesn't have to be as popular as it once was to still be healthy because it's still making loads of money. I will be worried about the sport when that money starts to shift the other direction.

My response was also to JohnnyMac's post which didn't seem to serve much purpose except as a drive by shot at two teams that aren't historical powers. Maybe I'm just touchy.


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I'm still wondering why the Brewers (who were in the American League) were moved to the National League only to have the Astros (who were in the National League) move to the American

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I'm still wondering why the Brewers (who were in the American League) were moved to the National League only to have the Astros (who were in the National League) move to the American


Rangers Astros

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Realignment from expansion and expanding the playoff

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I'm still wondering why the Brewers (who were in the American League) were moved to the National League only to have the Astros (who were in the National League) move to the American


Rangers Astros

Cubs Brewers

Realignment from expansion and expanding the playoff

Would've made more sense to do it at the same time instead of 15 years apart

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krewe of ham and eggs wrote:
windywave wrote:
krewe of ham and eggs wrote:
I'm still wondering why the Brewers (who were in the American League) were moved to the National League only to have the Astros (who were in the National League) move to the American


Rangers Astros

Cubs Brewers

Realignment from expansion and expanding the playoff

Would've made more sense to do it at the same time instead of 15 years apart


It was to have an even number of teams in each league(by even I mean 14 and 16). That worked real well for scheduling purposes. The effects of today's uneven(15 al and 15 nl) is that there is always an inter-league match-up going on. Before inter-league wasn't necessary, but now it is unless teams have off series, three days no games, while other 14 teams play each other. However if they did that it would extend the regular season by two more weeks. The thought by many is adding an expansion team in each league would even things out. The reluctance to add expansion teams is actually also a sign of the lack of growth for the league overall.

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krewe of ham and eggs wrote:
windywave wrote:
krewe of ham and eggs wrote:
I'm still wondering why the Brewers (who were in the American League) were moved to the National League only to have the Astros (who were in the National League) move to the American


Rangers Astros

Cubs Brewers

Realignment from expansion and expanding the playoff

Would've made more sense to do it at the same time instead of 15 years apart

Bud Selig's hard-on for the Milwaukee Braves good old days is why the Brewers moved AL to NL when the Diamondbacks and Devil Rays joined in '98. And also keeping even numbers in each league so there didn't have to be interleague play every day. Then, of course, they threw the interleague thing out the window to shift the Astros NL to AL so there could be balanced schedules for each division (6 five-team divisions vs 4 with 5 and a 6-team and 4-team). Now it would be fair to ask, "why not just move the Brewers back?". Well that's partly still the Selig effect. But also I believe the Astros volunteered, since American league ball with the DH is better and the future of the game.

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gerryb323 wrote:
krewe of ham and eggs wrote:
windywave wrote:
krewe of ham and eggs wrote:
I'm still wondering why the Brewers (who were in the American League) were moved to the National League only to have the Astros (who were in the National League) move to the American


Rangers Astros

Cubs Brewers

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Would've made more sense to do it at the same time instead of 15 years apart

the DH is better and the future of the game.


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windywave wrote:
gerryb323 wrote:
krewe of ham and eggs wrote:
windywave wrote:
krewe of ham and eggs wrote:
I'm still wondering why the Brewers (who were in the American League) were moved to the National League only to have the Astros (who were in the National League) move to the American


Rangers Astros

Cubs Brewers

Realignment from expansion and expanding the playoff

Would've made more sense to do it at the same time instead of 15 years apart

the DH is better and the future of the game.


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All my childhood days I followed the Red Sox, the Yankees, the Orioles, so I identified with the AL, even when the DH came in. It’s all I knew. Then once my stomping grounds shifted to Philly in the early 90s I started watching the NL brand more back before interleague play. I came to appreciate the NL strategy more even if it meant not pulling a pitcher for a pinch hitter late and giving up a sure out by having my ace still pitching. Heck, having the occasional game wrecking hit by a pitcher made it sweeter. I came to view DH as a parking place for washed up or not good enough fielders.

So color me a reformed DH person—always preferring the strategy of the NL game,

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gerryb323 wrote:
krewe of ham and eggs wrote:
windywave wrote:
krewe of ham and eggs wrote:
I'm still wondering why the Brewers (who were in the American League) were moved to the National League only to have the Astros (who were in the National League) move to the American


Rangers Astros

Cubs Brewers

Realignment from expansion and expanding the playoff

Would've made more sense to do it at the same time instead of 15 years apart

Bud Selig's hard-on for the Milwaukee Braves good old days is why the Brewers moved AL to NL when the Diamondbacks and Devil Rays joined in '98. And also keeping even numbers in each league so there didn't have to be interleague play every day. Then, of course, they threw the interleague thing out the window to shift the Astros NL to AL so there could be balanced schedules for each division (6 five-team divisions vs 4 with 5 and a 6-team and 4-team). Now it would be fair to ask, "why not just move the Brewers back?". Well that's partly still the Selig effect. But also I believe the Astros volunteered, since American league ball with the DH is better and the future of the game.

Close, but it was at least as much his hard-on for money and being in the same division as the Cubs.


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terrible umps unless they overturn this


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This is amazing. I don't think this is reviewable. Someone is finishing under protest either way

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Exactly what should have happened in Saints-Rams though

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Exhibit 72 in why baseball has lost the casual fan. Let's watch a 10 minute review to uphold an obvious wrong call!

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