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I'm not the least bit worried about Fritz going anywhere. Show me a P5 team who salivates over an older G5 coach who has barely skated above the .500 mark for several years. There would be a fanbase mutiny.

People here keep listening to the announcers who say "what a great job he's done rebuilding" and how "he's been a winner at every level" but stepping back and looking at results, are they going to hire Fritz or are they going to hire some 30-something guy who just took an SBC or CUSA team to a top 25 ranking and a 0-, 1-, or 2-loss season? I'm betting on the latter every time.
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Baywave1 wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:19 am Back to the thread topic: If Hall leaves for USM, is he perhaps jumping too soon? As speculated above and elsewhere, if Harbaugh and/or Hermann are gone (and Franklin too?) with open SEC jobs and whatever is to come, we could see enormous migration among existing HCs. I know it's all relative but this year could have an extraordinary number of job openings.

I don't think Fritz leaves but extension buyout should give Dannen the coin to find a solid next coach.

If nothing else, it will keep this board active.
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PeteRasche wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:12 pm I'm not the least bit worried about Fritz going anywhere. Show me a P5 team who salivates over an older G5 coach who has barely skated above the .500 mark for several years. There would be a fanbase mutiny.

People here keep listening to the announcers who say "what a great job he's done rebuilding" and how "he's been a winner at every level" but stepping back and looking at results, are they going to hire Fritz or are they going to hire some 30-something guy who just took an SBC or CUSA team to a top 25 ranking and a 0-, 1-, or 2-loss season? I'm betting on the latter every time.
I guess it depends on how you look at it. Is going 7-6 at Tulane in the AAC equivalent to 8-4 or 9-3 at most places. I think the answer is clearly yes. Especially when Tulane is doing this in the AAC. Kind of like James Franklin taking Vandy to bowl games. That may equate to 9 or 10 wins most anywhere else.
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ml wave wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:46 pm
Baywave1 wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:19 am Back to the thread topic: If Hall leaves for USM, is he perhaps jumping too soon? As speculated above and elsewhere, if Harbaugh and/or Hermann are gone (and Franklin too?) with open SEC jobs and whatever is to come, we could see enormous migration among existing HCs. I know it's all relative but this year could have an extraordinary number of job openings.

I don't think Fritz leaves but extension buyout should give Dannen the coin to find a solid next coach.

If nothing else, it will keep this board active.
Bird in the hand, especially if being in MS is important to him.
Agree. It's an FBS job in his home territory. USM has existing talent and Hall can recruit anybody he wants there. Hall's a good coach. I bet he wins CUSA sooner rather than later.
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Existing talent where? Not on their roster. They have been run into the ground. They look nothing like the USM teams of early CUSA. That is the good news/bad news for Hall. USM is so far down that he's going to look like a million bucks to them for any early good surprise results on the field/it's going to take time for him to have a roster as good as say, Marshall's.
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long green wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:05 pm Existing talent where? Not on their roster. They have been run into the ground. They look nothing like the USM teams of early CUSA. That is the good news/bad news for Hall. USM is so far down that he's going to look like a million bucks to them for any early good surprise results on the field/it's going to take time for him to have a roster as good as say, Marshall's.
The good news for them is that the rest of CUSA looks nothing like the teams of early CUSA either.
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Yes. But they have a ways to go until they are as talented as Marshall, the most consistent team in that league.
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Well USM PTB disagree with you as Hopson's bizarre firing demonstrated. Let's just leave USM existing talent level at that.

Again Hall can recruit anyone he wants including 20 jucos from Last Chance U. He will be competitive in CUSA quickly whether talent is existing or replaced. Like Fritz, Hall is used to doing big things with modest budgets. That's the advantage of Hall's successful D2 background as USM clearly is only modestly resourced.

Hey he may channel his inner Sonny Dykes and bring the migratory Lindsey Scott JR over from NSU to replace the migratory Jack Abraham. Let's not forget Scott now has another year of eligibility just like Jack. (OK it's a joke but these are strange times....)

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Back to Michigan. I hate COVID but it has provided some sublime moments including now the UM AD publicly calling Kirk Herbstreit a "fool" in a PR video released by the school not a chance misspeak in a drive by interview. It's one thing for Corso to degrade Herbstreit in the ESPN Clown Show but Warde Manuel being literally and ultimately professionally uncollegial??!!

This changes by the day but COVID may very well save Harbaugh's job regardless of whether UM plays OSU next week. Translating Manuel, "My kid may be ugly but only I can say that or see you outside. Understand??!!"

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South Carolina will hire Shane Beamer. Not a home run, more like trying for a bunt single.

South Alabama is firing their coach.
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long green wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:19 pm South Carolina will hire Shane Beamer. Not a home run, more like trying for a bunt single.
That's because they have to pay $15M off to the "Big Sweater." Probably could not afford anyone else.
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Rotorooter wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:36 pm
long green wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:19 pm South Carolina will hire Shane Beamer. Not a home run, more like trying for a bunt single.
That's because they have to pay $15M off to the "Big Sweater." Probably could not afford anyone else.
Sweater? The garment or the physical reaction? I ask because me and a friend have been referring to Muschamp as Big Pale Sweaty for years.
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Urban Meyer reportedly tells Texas he's not interested.

ULM fires Matt Viator.
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long green wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:37 am
Rotorooter wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:36 pm
long green wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:19 pm South Carolina will hire Shane Beamer. Not a home run, more like trying for a bunt single.
That's because they have to pay $15M off to the "Big Sweater." Probably could not afford anyone else.
Sweater? The garment or the physical reaction? I ask because me and a friend have been referring to Muschamp as Big Pale Sweaty for years.
The reaction. I must admit I like Big Pale Sweaty better.
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If you watched ASU-Arizona tonight you have to wonder if Kevin Sumlin is next on the unemployed list.
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Baywave1 wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:16 am If you watched ASU-Arizona tonight you have to wonder if Kevin Sumlin is next on the unemployed list.
They're hemorrhaging coin and their hoops program is going to get nuked so he's probably safe
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Reported that South Alabama will be hiring Indiana DC Kane Wommack. His dad was a DC all over the South.
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Sumlin out in Arizona
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Arkansas St. rumored to be hiring Butch Jones, with major applewhite at OC.

Vandy is reportedly interested in Jeff Monken of Army. Not sure if that means they would run the triple or if he would install something different there
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Seeing reports that Lovie Smith is out at Illinois
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Football Scoop reporting that Monken is also a target for the Illinois job.
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Malzahn is out at Auburn
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A lot of Auburn fans online are beating the drums for Mario Cristobal. Excellent recruiter but can't win the little one.
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gerryb323 wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:27 pm Malzahn is out at Auburn
Just looked up his buyout...owed nearly $21.5 million with half to be paid within 30 days. Wish someone would cut me a $10 million check to go away
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Bring back Pat Dye (is he still alive?)
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