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Duke's season over due to COVID

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Record not good enough for any postseason tournament at-large bid (13-11) and they just had a positive test that eliminated them from the ACC tournament. Wow.

I've been wondering all along what would happen if it suddenly spread through an NCAA site; I guess other teams move on by forfeit... If two opponents had a positive test on the last game of the weekend (meaning they'd have a week to test negative and continue on), and found out about the opponent's situation, I have to imagine the pressure to cheat the results would be immense (not to mention the pressure from gamblers to somehow alter results)... If one team tests positive, does the other have to test completely clear in order to "win" and advance? If both tested positive on a Thursday or Friday, would the whole game be a forfeit and their opponent on that Saturday or Sunday move on? I have to imagine this has all been thought through... Have they published official rulings on it?

Hopefully no teams test positive at all throughout the whole thing and we don't have to wonder.
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PeteRasche wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:21 pm Record not good enough for any postseason tournament at-large bid (13-11) and they just had a positive test that eliminated them from the ACC tournament. Wow.

I've been wondering all along what would happen if it suddenly spread through an NCAA site; I guess other teams move on by forfeit... If two opponents had a positive test on the last game of the weekend (meaning they'd have a week to test negative and continue on), and found out about the opponent's situation, I have to imagine the pressure to cheat the results would be immense (not to mention the pressure from gamblers to somehow alter results)... If one team tests positive, does the other have to test completely clear in order to "win" and advance? If both tested positive on a Thursday or Friday, would the whole game be a forfeit and their opponent on that Saturday or Sunday move on? I have to imagine this has all been thought through... Have they published official rulings on it?

Hopefully no teams test positive at all throughout the whole thing and we don't have to wonder.
I’d be ok if Houston tests positive tomorrow
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visualmagic wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:06 pm
PeteRasche wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:21 pm Record not good enough for any postseason tournament at-large bid (13-11) and they just had a positive test that eliminated them from the ACC tournament. Wow.

I've been wondering all along what would happen if it suddenly spread through an NCAA site; I guess other teams move on by forfeit... If two opponents had a positive test on the last game of the weekend (meaning they'd have a week to test negative and continue on), and found out about the opponent's situation, I have to imagine the pressure to cheat the results would be immense (not to mention the pressure from gamblers to somehow alter results)... If one team tests positive, does the other have to test completely clear in order to "win" and advance? If both tested positive on a Thursday or Friday, would the whole game be a forfeit and their opponent on that Saturday or Sunday move on? I have to imagine this has all been thought through... Have they published official rulings on it?

Hopefully no teams test positive at all throughout the whole thing and we don't have to wonder.
I’d be ok if Houston tests positive tomorrow
I thought the same thing right after our game today :mrgreen:
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PeteRasche wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:21 pm Record not good enough for any postseason tournament at-large bid (13-11) and they just had a positive test that eliminated them from the ACC tournament. Wow.

I've been wondering all along what would happen if it suddenly spread through an NCAA site; I guess other teams move on by forfeit... If two opponents had a positive test on the last game of the weekend (meaning they'd have a week to test negative and continue on), and found out about the opponent's situation, I have to imagine the pressure to cheat the results would be immense (not to mention the pressure from gamblers to somehow alter results)... If one team tests positive, does the other have to test completely clear in order to "win" and advance? If both tested positive on a Thursday or Friday, would the whole game be a forfeit and their opponent on that Saturday or Sunday move on? I have to imagine this has all been thought through... Have they published official rulings on it?

Hopefully no teams test positive at all throughout the whole thing and we don't have to wonder.
The NCAA is allowing teams to play as long as they have at least 5 eligible players. Players will have individual rooms and will wear the bracelets (or whatever) to monitor for contact tracing...seems like it'd be tough to continue with a positive test but I guess we'll see.
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No Duke, no UK, no Michigan State... Louisville solidly on the bubble after losing in the first round...

Local news this morning said that if Louisville isn't in the tourney, it will be the first time since the start of the "modern" NCAA tourney that neither UK nor UL made it. And the laugh here is that the whole state of Kentucky could be represented by Morehead State, who won their conference tourney and punched their ticket already.

UVA just dropped out of the ACC tourney due to COVID. The story about that clarified that you must have a 7 day clear period to be eligible in the NCAA, so teams are now within that window where they could be out of the dance if they test positive over the next three days.

In smaller school news, it probably hits even harder when you are a "once in a blue moon, only make it by winning your tournament" type program. NC A&T is such, and was the top seed in their tournament but just had to drop out due to COVID. For programs like that where you have a great year and have one legit shot at any postseason, that's maybe even more of a killer.
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Or like us when we win the AAC tourney?!
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gerryb323 wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:38 pm Or like us when we win the AAC tourney?!
Right. If we upset Houston tonight and go on to win the AAC and then test positive and have to drop out... what a wonderful thought.
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I believe they had said for the big tourney they will have the "first 4 out" designated as backups and if someone has to drop out before it starts they will sub them in. After the first round though, it's just a forfeit.
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Kansas is now withdrawing from the Big 12 tournament due to a positive test. Will be interesting to see if they can clear in time for THE tournament. Maybe they should "Self"-impose a postseason ban this year!
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On Gus’s show today he had a gambling handicapper or something like that on and they were saying they wouldn’t be surprised if more teams that pretty much know their seeding would drop out of their conference tournament to protect their players before the tournament. Even hinted that Kansas may be doing that, whereas a team like Duke needed to win games in their conference tournament to possibly get a bid.
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PeteRasche wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:36 pm No Duke, no UK, no Michigan State... Louisville solidly on the bubble after losing in the first round...

Local news this morning said that if Louisville isn't in the tourney, it will be the first time since the start of the "modern" NCAA tourney that neither UK nor UL made it. And the laugh here is that the whole state of Kentucky could be represented by Morehead State, who won their conference tourney and punched their ticket already.

UVA just dropped out of the ACC tourney due to COVID. The story about that clarified that you must have a 7 day clear period to be eligible in the NCAA, so teams are now within that window where they could be out of the dance if they test positive over the next three days.

In smaller school news, it probably hits even harder when you are a "once in a blue moon, only make it by winning your tournament" type program. NC A&T is such, and was the top seed in their tournament but just had to drop out due to COVID. For programs like that where you have a great year and have one legit shot at any postseason, that's maybe even more of a killer.
Yeah, I felt bad for Dayton last year...they really had a chance to do something in the tourney.
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ml wave wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:21 pm
PeteRasche wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:36 pm No Duke, no UK, no Michigan State... Louisville solidly on the bubble after losing in the first round...

Local news this morning said that if Louisville isn't in the tourney, it will be the first time since the start of the "modern" NCAA tourney that neither UK nor UL made it. And the laugh here is that the whole state of Kentucky could be represented by Morehead State, who won their conference tourney and punched their ticket already.

UVA just dropped out of the ACC tourney due to COVID. The story about that clarified that you must have a 7 day clear period to be eligible in the NCAA, so teams are now within that window where they could be out of the dance if they test positive over the next three days.

In smaller school news, it probably hits even harder when you are a "once in a blue moon, only make it by winning your tournament" type program. NC A&T is such, and was the top seed in their tournament but just had to drop out due to COVID. For programs like that where you have a great year and have one legit shot at any postseason, that's maybe even more of a killer.
Yeah, I felt bad for Dayton last year...they really had a chance to do something in the tourney.
Absolutely. Lots of Dayton grads around here... The anniversary of last year's cancelation is weighing on them even more now that they realize what a rare chance they had.
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Same for ETSU locally last year. Dominated Socon, won 30 games and then the conference tourney only to have the big dance canceled. Would've had a great chance to win a game or two.

BTW, I'm not sure all the teams Pete listed are totally done. Louisville has an outside chance at the bubble. Michigan St. is still alive too, at least according to some folks who track such things. We will see how many conference tourneys end with surprise winners.
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