Coaching Carousel 2017-18
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I sure can't. Brett Favre might be the best CUSA QB. Keenum is having a good year and Kevin Kolb was a starter for a bit. David Garrard? Byron Leftwich, and Chad Pennington? I don't think those guys (outside of Favre) have been all that successful
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Cam Newton hasn't played long enough and Detroit suckstulaneoutlaw wrote:I think Windy's anti-SEC bias is shading what could be considered a successful NFL QB. I'm not going to count Cutler and Dak is still too soon to tell, but Newton and Stafford are clearly good quarterbacks unless your only measure of success is winning a Super Bowl. There are plenty of teams that wish they had them on their team.
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Cam Newton hasn't played long enough and Detroit suckstulaneoutlaw wrote:I think Windy's anti-SEC bias is shading what could be considered a successful NFL QB. I'm not going to count Cutler and Dak is still too soon to tell, but Newton and Stafford are clearly good quarterbacks unless your only measure of success is winning a Super Bowl. There are plenty of teams that wish they had them on their team.
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Bortles? Did Bridgewater overlap in CUSA? I don't think so. If we're calling any of these guys successes (save Favre, obviously) I think we'd need to give Dak and Cutler to the SEC.tulaneoutlaw wrote:I sure can't. Brett Favre might be the best CUSA QB. Keenum is having a good year and Kevin Kolb was a starter for a bit. David Garrard? Byron Leftwich, and Chad Pennington? I don't think those guys (outside of Favre) have been all that successful
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AAC guys early in careers: Bortles, Paxton Lynch, Ryan Griffin (others?)gerryb323 wrote:I initially didn't include Cutler, but the guy's been a starter for what, 11 years now? Irregardless, can y'all think of 4 cusa/AAC guys?tulaneoutlaw wrote:I think Windy's anti-SEC bias is shading what could be considered a successful NFL QB. I'm not going to count Cutler and Dak is still too soon to tell, but Newton and Stafford are clearly good quarterbacks unless your only measure of success is winning a Super Bowl. There are plenty of teams that wish they had them on their team.
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Well they succeeded in making it to the NFL, but then we need to add AJ McCarron, Zach Mettenberger, Matt Flynn, Ryan Mallett, Aaron Murray and probably way more to the SECMNAlum wrote:AAC guys early in careers: Bortles, Paxton Lynch, Ryan Griffin (others?)gerryb323 wrote:I initially didn't include Cutler, but the guy's been a starter for what, 11 years now? Irregardless, can y'all think of 4 cusa/AAC guys?tulaneoutlaw wrote:I think Windy's anti-SEC bias is shading what could be considered a successful NFL QB. I'm not going to count Cutler and Dak is still too soon to tell, but Newton and Stafford are clearly good quarterbacks unless your only measure of success is winning a Super Bowl. There are plenty of teams that wish they had them on their team.
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Doesn't Favre predate the CUSA?tulaneoutlaw wrote:I sure can't. Brett Favre might be the best CUSA QB. Keenum is having a good year and Kevin Kolb was a starter for a bit. David Garrard? Byron Leftwich, and Chad Pennington? I don't think those guys (outside of Favre) have been all that successful
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Yes, but not really the point. They were CUSA equivalent as independent, no?Poseidon wrote:Doesn't Favre predate the CUSA?tulaneoutlaw wrote:I sure can't. Brett Favre might be the best CUSA QB. Keenum is having a good year and Kevin Kolb was a starter for a bit. David Garrard? Byron Leftwich, and Chad Pennington? I don't think those guys (outside of Favre) have been all that successful
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Reports coming in that Taggart to Florida State is official.
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Don't forget Windy's fav, Rex Grossman . I think given how much the SEC is talked up you might expect more "elite" level QBs to have come from the league. But in reality they've produced plenty of NFL level QB prospects. Sports are zero sum, so only very few can achieve that "elite" level and it makes sense those top level QBs will come from a variety of places.gerryb323 wrote:Well they succeeded in making it to the NFL, but then we need to add AJ McCarron, Zach Mettenberger, Matt Flynn, Ryan Mallett, Aaron Murray and probably way more to the SECMNAlum wrote:AAC guys early in careers: Bortles, Paxton Lynch, Ryan Griffin (others?)gerryb323 wrote:I initially didn't include Cutler, but the guy's been a starter for what, 11 years now? Irregardless, can y'all think of 4 cusa/AAC guys?tulaneoutlaw wrote:I think Windy's anti-SEC bias is shading what could be considered a successful NFL QB. I'm not going to count Cutler and Dak is still too soon to tell, but Newton and Stafford are clearly good quarterbacks unless your only measure of success is winning a Super Bowl. There are plenty of teams that wish they had them on their team.
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I truly believe that predicting who will be an elite QB in the NFL is the most difficult predictor in sports. NFL teams spend tons of $$ on it and STILL don't get it right. Otherwise, the two best QBs of their generation, Montana and Brady, wouldn't have gone in the 3rd and 6th rounds, respectively. And Ryan Leaf wouldn't have been the second pick. Or Robert Griffin. Or Brady Quinn. Etc., etc.
It's tough to hold the SEC accountable for their failings at QB because they are probably just as "successful" as all other leagues in CFB.
It's tough to hold the SEC accountable for their failings at QB because they are probably just as "successful" as all other leagues in CFB.
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If anything, the thing all of the Big 12 QBs/Coaches have in common is that they weren't NFL quality and could get an early start on coaching.
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Bart Starrgerryb323 wrote:Well they succeeded in making it to the NFL, but then we need to add AJ McCarron, Zach Mettenberger, Matt Flynn, Ryan Mallett, Aaron Murray and probably way more to the SECMNAlum wrote:AAC guys early in careers: Bortles, Paxton Lynch, Ryan Griffin (others?)gerryb323 wrote:I initially didn't include Cutler, but the guy's been a starter for what, 11 years now? Irregardless, can y'all think of 4 cusa/AAC guys?tulaneoutlaw wrote:I think Windy's anti-SEC bias is shading what could be considered a successful NFL QB. I'm not going to count Cutler and Dak is still too soon to tell, but Newton and Stafford are clearly good quarterbacks unless your only measure of success is winning a Super Bowl. There are plenty of teams that wish they had them on their team.
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Sarcasm?ml wave wrote:Bart Starrgerryb323 wrote:Well they succeeded in making it to the NFL, but then we need to add AJ McCarron, Zach Mettenberger, Matt Flynn, Ryan Mallett, Aaron Murray and probably way more to the SECMNAlum wrote:AAC guys early in careers: Bortles, Paxton Lynch, Ryan Griffin (others?)gerryb323 wrote:I initially didn't include Cutler, but the guy's been a starter for what, 11 years now? Irregardless, can y'all think of 4 cusa/AAC guys?tulaneoutlaw wrote:I think Windy's anti-SEC bias is shading what could be considered a successful NFL QB. I'm not going to count Cutler and Dak is still too soon to tell, but Newton and Stafford are clearly good quarterbacks unless your only measure of success is winning a Super Bowl. There are plenty of teams that wish they had them on their team.
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Couple of AAC updates: Mike Norvell just signed an extension with Memphis, and I'm seeing a lot of Chad Morris to Arkansas buzz. That's still a wait-and-see, but so was Taggart to FSU for a few days.
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Chad Morris to Arkansas being reported as done deal.1309th WAVE wrote:Couple of AAC updates: Mike Norvell just signed an extension with Memphis, and I'm seeing a lot of Chad Morris to Arkansas buzz. That's still a wait-and-see, but so was Taggart to FSU for a few days.
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No, pretty sure he went to Bama...gerryb323 wrote:Sarcasm?ml wave wrote:Bart Starrgerryb323 wrote:Well they succeeded in making it to the NFL, but then we need to add AJ McCarron, Zach Mettenberger, Matt Flynn, Ryan Mallett, Aaron Murray and probably way more to the SECMNAlum wrote:AAC guys early in careers: Bortles, Paxton Lynch, Ryan Griffin (others?)gerryb323 wrote:I initially didn't include Cutler, but the guy's been a starter for what, 11 years now? Irregardless, can y'all think of 4 cusa/AAC guys?tulaneoutlaw wrote:I think Windy's anti-SEC bias is shading what could be considered a successful NFL QB. I'm not going to count Cutler and Dak is still too soon to tell, but Newton and Stafford are clearly good quarterbacks unless your only measure of success is winning a Super Bowl. There are plenty of teams that wish they had them on their team.
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Morris does move on to Ark. SMU has to come to New Orleans next year with a new HC.OGSB wrote:Chad Morris to Arkansas being reported as done deal.1309th WAVE wrote: Couple of AAC updates: Mike Norvell just signed an extension with Memphis, and I'm seeing a lot of Chad Morris to Arkansas buzz. That's still a wait-and-see, but so was Taggart to FSU for a few days.
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Wow. I just was not impressed with Morris. Oh well..............
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You can fool some of the people all the time, and all the people some of the time...GreenieBacker wrote:Wow. I just was not impressed with Morris. Oh well..............
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If you move the goalposts a bit, what Morris did to get the program back from their 2014 team, which could very well be the worst FBS team in history, to a bowl in 3 years is pretty impressive. Is it a better resume than Norvell, or Neal Brown, or many other G5 up-and-comers? Probably not.GreenieBacker wrote:Wow. I just was not impressed with Morris. Oh well..............
2014 SMU averaged 3 points a game through their first 4 games and scored 14 touchdowns all year, though. He built a top 10 offense out of basically nothing (and left the defense as bad as it was before).
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UTEP hires KState o coordinator Dana Dimel
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Isn't that the same Dimel who couldn't coach Cougar High? Phew! Of course, who else could UTEP get?gerryb323 wrote:UTEP hires KState o coordinator Dana Dimel
Also, Herm Edwards to Arizona St.? Another questionable hire. Fire Todd Graham for going 7-5 and hiring Edwards?! Phew!
FWIW, I thought Morris did a pretty good job at SMU--they were competitive in 10 out of 12 games. They recovered from the June Jones hangover.
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