Yeah I knew about the issues he had there, it's just not that common for a P5 coach to willingly leave for a G5 job. That Houston found the money to pay him is rare amoung G5 positions.Rotorooter wrote:I'm not. Rumors have been swirling for years about WVU and Holgorsen having some "differences." His winningest years came early, showing that he had trouble with recruiting his own guys as time wore on. WVU football is the biggest thing in the state and has a rabid alumni fan base. The Mop has not shown that he can bring its program to the next level. Really, it's only a matter of time for him. I believe the article hits the issues pretty much spot on.tulaneoutlaw wrote:I'm surprised, but it seems holgorsen is heading to Houston. Here's a good article on the move. Interestingly, Kliff Kingsbury eas also looked at. Not sure if I'd rather have him or Holgo. Anyway $20 million contract is expected.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-footba ... t-virginia
Frankly, if it does happen, Cougar High hiring Holgorsen gives the AAC more street cred. I'm all for it on many fronts. WVU will get a good coach and will always have great support. Hope he takes it.
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Houston doesn't have money problems as mentioned in earlier posts. They got the owner of the Golden Nugget casinos, the Rockets and a restaurant empire all rolled up in one booster who happens to be the chairman of their board of regents.tulaneoutlaw wrote:Yeah I knew about the issues he had there, it's just not that common for a P5 coach to willingly leave for a G5 job. That Houston found the money to pay him is rare amoung G5 positions.Rotorooter wrote:I'm not. Rumors have been swirling for years about WVU and Holgorsen having some "differences." His winningest years came early, showing that he had trouble with recruiting his own guys as time wore on. WVU football is the biggest thing in the state and has a rabid alumni fan base. The Mop has not shown that he can bring its program to the next level. Really, it's only a matter of time for him. I believe the article hits the issues pretty much spot on.tulaneoutlaw wrote:I'm surprised, but it seems holgorsen is heading to Houston. Here's a good article on the move. Interestingly, Kliff Kingsbury eas also looked at. Not sure if I'd rather have him or Holgo. Anyway $20 million contract is expected.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-footba ... t-virginia
Frankly, if it does happen, Cougar High hiring Holgorsen gives the AAC more street cred. I'm all for it on many fronts. WVU will get a good coach and will always have great support. Hope he takes it.
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If WVU took Fickell after already having Huggins, I don't know what Cincinnati fans would do...Rotorooter wrote:Frankly, Fickell is a great choice for WVU. Great for Ohio recruiting. But Brown may be less expensive and just as good a hire.long green wrote:Splashy hire, let's see how he does. Good for UH, if they nail their target. If WVU does not camp out on Neal Brown's lawn I don't understand the world anymore.
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Kind of what WVU fans did when Michigan took the soccer coach, Bielein and Rodriguez. Besides, UC had already terminated Huggins when WVU hired him. Cry me a river for UC...PeteRasche wrote:If WVU took Fickell after already having Huggins, I don't know what Cincinnati fans would do...Rotorooter wrote:Frankly, Fickell is a great choice for WVU. Great for Ohio recruiting. But Brown may be less expensive and just as good a hire.long green wrote:Splashy hire, let's see how he does. Good for UH, if they nail their target. If WVU does not camp out on Neal Brown's lawn I don't understand the world anymore.
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I'll get plenty of chuckles out of it.Rotorooter wrote:Kind of what WVU fans did when Michigan took the soccer coach, Bielein and Rodriguez. Besides, UC had already terminated Huggins when WVU hired him. Cry me a river for UC...PeteRasche wrote:If WVU took Fickell after already having Huggins, I don't know what Cincinnati fans would do...Rotorooter wrote:Frankly, Fickell is a great choice for WVU. Great for Ohio recruiting. But Brown may be less expensive and just as good a hire.long green wrote:Splashy hire, let's see how he does. Good for UH, if they nail their target. If WVU does not camp out on Neal Brown's lawn I don't understand the world anymore.
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I look forward to beating Houston next year.
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I hope so. However our schedule just got tougher. He will field a potent, though no longer innovative, offense. They have a ton back on as well. They cant do worse than d'nofrios defense. They play Oklahoma and Wazzou. They knew 2019 was set up to be banner year for them. I suspect that is why they couldn't afford to be patient with Applewhite. They should be favorited to win the west. Us and Memphis should be right behind them.Private Joker wrote:I look forward to beating Houston next year.
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Just heard an interview with Holgorsen on a Houston radio station. He is a character and I would love to go for drinks with him, Leach, Huggins, and Frank Martin. Guarantee you would have no idea how you got home. He would fit in New Orleans like a glove. Where is our Tilman Fertitta? No offense, but our biggest donors love tennis and sailing.
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I can attest to Bob Huggins being hysterical. I sat by him at a basketball game once and he had everyone in stitches and that was sober. As dry as he is in interviews, convert that to droll sarcasm.tjtlja wrote:Just heard an interview with Holgorsen on a Houston radio station. He is a character and I would love to go for drinks with him, Leach, Huggins, and Frank Martin. Guarantee you would have no idea how you got home. He would fit in New Orleans like a glove. Where is our Tilman Fertitta? No offense, but our biggest donors love tennis and sailing.
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Pete Thames is tweeting that WVU is close to hiring Neal Brown of Troy. Superb hire under the circumstances if it happens.
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Agreed. I can't believe he nearly made it through another hiring cycle without being plucked from Troy.long green wrote:Pete Thames is tweeting that WVU is close to hiring Neal Brown of Troy. Superb hire under the circumstances if it happens.
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looks to be a six year dealtulaneoutlaw wrote:Agreed. I can't believe he nearly made it through another hiring cycle without being plucked from Troy.long green wrote:Pete Thames is tweeting that WVU is close to hiring Neal Brown of Troy. Superb hire under the circumstances if it happens.
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ND St won the FCS championship today so he can start concentrating on K StOGSB wrote:Interestingly he’s going to finish out the ND St season. Being in the playoffs that means it’s open as to when he becomes Kansas St’s full time coach. SD St @ ND St is on right now.gerryb323 wrote:K-State hires ND State's coach.
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There may be an opening in Houston tomorrow.
Also, interesting strategy by USC AD with Kingsbury...
Also, interesting strategy by USC AD with Kingsbury...
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High or Texans?gerryb323 wrote:There may be an opening in Houston tomorrow.
Also, interesting strategy by USC AD with Kingsbury...
Yeah that is basically ensures he moves on next year
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Texans got manhandledwindywave wrote:High or Texans?gerryb323 wrote:There may be an opening in Houston tomorrow.
Also, interesting strategy by USC AD with Kingsbury...
Yeah that is basically ensures he moves on next year
Wandering around somewhere in a matchup zone
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Embarrassed is more like itgerryb323 wrote:Texans got manhandledwindywave wrote:High or Texans?gerryb323 wrote:There may be an opening in Houston tomorrow.
Also, interesting strategy by USC AD with Kingsbury...
Yeah that is basically ensures he moves on next year
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That too. If Texans had an owner, I'd be worried for my jobwindywave wrote:Embarrassed is more like itgerryb323 wrote:Texans got manhandledwindywave wrote:High or Texans?gerryb323 wrote:There may be an opening in Houston tomorrow.
Also, interesting strategy by USC AD with Kingsbury...
Yeah that is basically ensures he moves on next year
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Another article on the Holgerson hire at UH. Interesting.
Would be nice to have a desirable coach who always dreamed of coming back to Tulane and a billionaire booster available to make sure it happened, eh?
http://www.espn.com/college-football/st ... orsen-hire
Would be nice to have a desirable coach who always dreamed of coming back to Tulane and a billionaire booster available to make sure it happened, eh?
http://www.espn.com/college-football/st ... orsen-hire
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… well Gayle Benson is worth $2.8B. She's tied with Oprah on the list.PeteRasche wrote:Another article on the Holgerson hire at UH. Interesting.
Would be nice to have a desirable coach who always dreamed of coming back to Tulane and a billionaire booster available to make sure it happened, eh?
http://www.espn.com/college-football/st ... orsen-hire
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And Goldring is worth more than that.sr wrote:… well Gayle Benson is worth $2.8B. She's tied with Oprah on the list.PeteRasche wrote:Another article on the Holgerson hire at UH. Interesting.
Would be nice to have a desirable coach who always dreamed of coming back to Tulane and a billionaire booster available to make sure it happened, eh?
http://www.espn.com/college-football/st ... orsen-hire
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Goldring is worth $3.9Bml wave wrote:And Goldring is worth more than that.sr wrote:… well Gayle Benson is worth $2.8B. She's tied with Oprah on the list.PeteRasche wrote:Another article on the Holgerson hire at UH. Interesting.
Would be nice to have a desirable coach who always dreamed of coming back to Tulane and a billionaire booster available to make sure it happened, eh?
http://www.espn.com/college-football/st ... orsen-hire
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The purchase of Fireball and then its transformation under new managment into a top performing alcohol brand may be one of the greatest wealth generating business moves by any Louisianan ever. Perhaps up there with Benson buying/owning the Saints/Pels with state aid!sr wrote:Goldring is worth $3.9Bml wave wrote:And Goldring is worth more than that.sr wrote:… well Gayle Benson is worth $2.8B. She's tied with Oprah on the list.PeteRasche wrote:Another article on the Holgerson hire at UH. Interesting.
Would be nice to have a desirable coach who always dreamed of coming back to Tulane and a billionaire booster available to make sure it happened, eh?
http://www.espn.com/college-football/st ... orsen-hire
If you want to maximize the analogy throw in Jill and Avi Glazer who have strong connections now to N.O. and participated in LBO of Man U after family already owned the Bucs.
Why does it matter? All have deep and strong ties to Tulane Board and Athletics. In other words, we are not helpless here.
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The Glazers tip the scales at modest $4B.Baywave1 wrote:The purchase of Fireball and then its transformation under new managment into a top performing alcohol brand may be one of the greatest wealth generating business moves by any Louisianan ever. Perhaps up there with Benson buying/owning the Saints/Pels with state aid!sr wrote:Goldring is worth $3.9Bml wave wrote:And Goldring is worth more than that.sr wrote:… well Gayle Benson is worth $2.8B. She's tied with Oprah on the list.PeteRasche wrote:Another article on the Holgerson hire at UH. Interesting.
Would be nice to have a desirable coach who always dreamed of coming back to Tulane and a billionaire booster available to make sure it happened, eh?
http://www.espn.com/college-football/st ... orsen-hire
If you want to maximize the analogy throw in Jill and Avi Glazer who have strong connections now to N.O. and participated in LBO of Man U after family already owned the Bucs.
Why does it matter? All have deep and strong ties to Tulane Board and Athletics. In other words, we are not helpless here.
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The missing part of the equation is a hot coach at a P5 school who has such strong ties to Tulane that he always dreams of coming back. And it wouldn't hurt if said coach frequently "has c0cktails" with one of our billionaire boosters mentioned above (as with Holgerson and the Houston guy). One would think that if this situation existed, that coach would be coaching Tulane instead of Fritz (i.e., would have been hired back when Fritz was, cost-be-damned).
Nonetheless, I read read that story I linked (did y'all read it?) and none of our billionaire boosters seem to be in the same "situation" (with respect to their intent for successful athletics) that this guy is. Sure, they've given a lot of money towards facilities, I but never got the impression any of them have said "go hire {so and so}, we'll make sure he gets every cent required to bring him here"... know what I mean?
Nonetheless, I read read that story I linked (did y'all read it?) and none of our billionaire boosters seem to be in the same "situation" (with respect to their intent for successful athletics) that this guy is. Sure, they've given a lot of money towards facilities, I but never got the impression any of them have said "go hire {so and so}, we'll make sure he gets every cent required to bring him here"... know what I mean?