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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 9:02 am 
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Up until I retired to the Maryland Eastern Shore a couple of years ago, we lived full time in a condo within walking distance of the Liberty Bell and Temple. The Linc is a 15 minute subway ride as is the Liacouras Center. Temple is at heart, even after all the expansion, a commuter school. More people live on campus than ever before but it’s still a place that empties out most weekends. Student population is several thousand more than Tulane yet student attendance is worse than ours. Temple football has always struggled in this hardcore pro football town and basketball plays in a very nice facility that was sized for the John Chaney years. Periodically there is a push to make an on campus stadium but it always fails due to familiar pushback—available land in a landlocked university, NIMBYs, and just plain financing.

Temple’s efforts in increasing attendance is commendable but they might have as tough a job if not tougher than Tulane. And with the disgrace of Temple’s biggest former cheerleader, Bill Cosby, they don’t even have him to help efforts anymore.

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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 9:18 am 
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TUPF wrote:
Up until I retired to the Maryland Eastern Shore a couple of years ago, we lived full time in a condo within walking distance of the Liberty Bell and Temple. The Linc is a 15 minute subway ride as is the Liacouras Center. Temple is at heart, even after all the expansion, a commuter school. More people live on campus than ever before but it’s still a place that empties out most weekends. Student population is several thousand more than Tulane yet student attendance is worse than ours. Temple football has always struggled in this hardcore pro football town and basketball plays in a very nice facility that was sized for the John Chaney years. Periodically there is a push to make an on campus stadium but it always fails due to familiar pushback—available land in a landlocked university, NIMBYs, and just plain financing.

Temple’s efforts in increasing attendance is commendable but they might have as tough a job if not tougher than Tulane. And with the disgrace of Temple’s biggest former cheerleader, Bill Cosby, they don’t even have him to help efforts anymore.


Temple football has always had spotty attendance (except when they are playing Penn State or Notre Dame). What's really struggled of late has been basketball, which was always a marquis program but has been hurting because of the ascendance of Villanova as an elite hoops school representing the city (it used to be considered an elitist, suburban outside). It will be interesting to see if former Owl and Sixer Aaron McKie can breathe life back into the hoops program. Has a lot of potential to further boost the AAC as a hoops conference.


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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 9:57 am 
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I think you have mischaracterized Villanova a bit. It may look elitist to an outsider now but that’s not its history. Villanova was the place where the first generation Italian Catholic immigrants sent their kids from South Philly but would still be home for Sunday dinners. Most could not get into the Notre Dames and Georgetown was too expensive so Villanova it was if you wanted a Catholic uni nearby. Many lived at home.

Up until the advent of the Big East and Nova’s stunning National Championship under Rollie Massimino in the 80s it was still looked upon as a mostly commuter school. There was not nearly enough student housing then for most to live on campus. I worked with several Villanova grads and my wife is a Bryn Mawr grad with South Philly Italian roots. The Philly Big 5+ Drexel was more often dominated by Temple and occasionally Penn, with the occasional run by St. Joseph’s (that one magical season) or LaSalle.

Just like Miami was once a nobody in football then it wasn’t, Villanova’s tide was lifted with the rest of the Big East boats. It was pretty shrewd when you look back. It’s academics then were fair to middling and has gotten better, but it’s not in the same class as it’s suburban neighbors Swarthmore and Bryn Mawr, and it can’t touch UPenn. Like Temple cutting its ties with the disgraced Bill Cosby, Villanova did the same previously with The DuPont family after John (for whom it’s basketball facility was then named) murdered an Olympic wrestler in 1997.

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