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Why don't outstanding game-changing QB's come to Tulane?
Poll ended at Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:04 pm
Admission requirements and academics are too tough 9%  9%  [ 4 ]
Yulman is a high school stadium 11%  11%  [ 5 ]
Coach Fritz's offense is unattractive 13%  13%  [ 6 ]
The AAC is not a Power conference 28%  28%  [ 13 ]
I have no idea how 18 year-olds make decisions 39%  39%  [ 18 ]
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:04 pm 
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Thought you folks might want to take this poll.

There was not room for the choice "We don't have enough good NOLA recruiting connections".

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:40 pm 
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Actually, not many schools attract game-changing Qbs.


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And here I thought it was due to the lack of hot chocolate in Yulman

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krewe of ham and eggs wrote:
And here I thought it was due to the lack of hot chocolate in Yulman


NCAA rules prohibit it at stadiums locsted in states that seceded

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Ray wrote:
Actually, not many schools attract game-changing Qbs.

Exactly, and the few out there don't go to schools who have counted winning seasons on one hand in the last quarter century.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:59 am 
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There was a highly rated QB in Johnson City a few decades ago who was heavily recruited by UT coaching legend General Neyland. He ended up at Florida because he wanted to pass the ball, and Neyland told him that UT was a running team and would not change. Steve Spurrier angered Tennessee fans and locals, but won the Heisman.

Not every QB is that good, although many see themselves that way. The new OC should make some take a second look.

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Great poll. You managed a true range of options including throwing a bone to the igloo crew (all two of them) who hate playing uptown.


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Tanner Lee was a game-changing qb.
He needed to work on the “outstanding” part.

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BC Wave wrote:
Tanner Lee was a game-changing qb.
He needed to work on the “outstanding” part.

CJ thought he was outstanding. Golly!

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gerryb323 wrote:
BC Wave wrote:
Tanner Lee was a game-changing qb.
He needed to work on the “outstanding” part.

CJ thought he was outstanding. Golly!

Well, some thought he "stood out"!

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BC Wave wrote:
Tanner Lee was a game-changing qb.


Heh. Yeah, be careful what you wish for.

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It's a far more stable and better long term strategy to get a coach who puts good QB's in a position to make game changing plays than trying to find those few in a decade talents.

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I refuse to respond ...high school stadium... are you kidding me?.. build the program and build the support - then see where the current trends dictate you spend your $. No Fan of dickson, for alot of reasons - but the stadium was the right move. fritz will start to fill it . get a championship - build an addition. but to post that BS is counter productive ... every effort should be to build the program -


but "HS stadium" - very counter productive >>>> reversing 30 years of mis management - is not easy and we are on the path ... why such a negative poll? we all know that the BS BCS controls all the cash... waited a long time for a prof.coach and coaching staff...we are on our way... public reads it - why the backhanded negativity.....you are your worst enemy!.
total BS... you deserve what you get!


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I thought we all knew this was tongue in cheek

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RI WAVE wrote:
I refuse to respond ...high school stadium... are you kidding me?.. !


Kids from top programs in Texas play in bigger better stadiums almost every Friday night, tough sell but a fact.

That said I believe it has more to do with Conference and historical record when it comes to recruiting.


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RI WAVE wrote:
I refuse to respond ...high school stadium... are you kidding me?.. !


Kids from top programs in Texas play in bigger better stadiums almost every Friday night, tough sell but a fact.

That said I believe it has more to do with Conference and historical record when it comes to recruiting.


Perhaps the case is those kids play in college stadiums. Citing the 0.01% of highs schools as your example is not being honest about the situation.

That is like talking about Alabama's coaches salary as if it were the norm for all D1 football.

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RI WAVE wrote:
I refuse to respond ...high school stadium... are you kidding me?.. build the program and build the support - then see where the current trends dictate you spend your $. No Fan of dickson, for alot of reasons - but the stadium was the right move. fritz will start to fill it . get a championship - build an addition. but to post that BS is counter productive ... every effort should be to build the program -


but "HS stadium" - very counter productive >>>> reversing 30 years of mis management - is not easy and we are on the path ... why such a negative poll? we all know that the BS BCS controls all the cash... waited a long time for a prof.coach and coaching staff...we are on our way... public reads it - why the backhanded negativity.....you are your worst enemy!.
total BS... you deserve what you get!


Sorry to offend you. I set up this poll as an honest reflection of views I have seen on this board. Have you not observed this comment before? A poll only allows 5 options or I would have included other views as well.

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It's a lot of factors, but I think the biggest one was CWF misspeaking in his first interview about his offense, then not being aggressive enough in knocking it down afterwards. In total context, it was clear what he wanted to run, but in a soundbite it sounded like a triple option. He kept explaining for years, but not aggresively enough, and nothing could take back the soundbite. Pretty soon us running a triple option was a talking point for every broadcaster doing games, its what high school coaches (who aren't always that smart nor engaged) heard, and heck even some of our own fans still think we were trying to run a "high school" triple option offense. It was a problem with perception far more than it was with reality, and it kept us from getting the talent necessary to run it leaving us, ironically, running something closer to what people imagined, and reinforcing the image.

Hopefully the new OC helps change that image regardless of if he changes a lot or a little from what CWF originally wanted to do

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WaveProf wrote:
It's a lot of factors, but I think the biggest one was CWF misspeaking in his first interview about his offense, then not being aggressive enough in knocking it down afterwards. In total context, it was clear what he wanted to run, but in a soundbite it sounded like a triple option. He kept explaining for years, but not aggresively enough, and nothing could take back the soundbite. Pretty soon us running a triple option was a talking point for every broadcaster doing games, its what high school coaches (who aren't always that smart nor engaged) heard, and heck even some of our own fans still think we were trying to run a "high school" triple option offense. It was a problem with perception far more than it was with reality, and it kept us from getting the talent necessary to run it leaving us, ironically, running something closer to what people imagined, and reinforcing the image.

Hopefully the new OC helps change that image regardless of if he changes a lot or a little from what CWF originally wanted to do

Totally agree on this point. I can remember ESPN color analysts commenting on Tulane's "triple option" game. That was damaging and seemed to take on a life of its own in spite of what everyone was seeing (a run-heavy inside zone read).
Looking forward to resolving that self-inflicted wound this season.


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Why don't outstanding game-changing polls come to this board?


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FW wrote:
Why don't outstanding game-changing polls come to this board?

because yogwf is a high school forum

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FW wrote:
Why don't outstanding game-changing polls come to this board?


ALERT!!!
 
So you didn't think this was a start in that direction?
 
SARCASM!

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WaveProf wrote:
It's a lot of factors, but I think the biggest one was CWF misspeaking in his first interview about his offense, then not being aggressive enough in knocking it down afterwards. In total context, it was clear what he wanted to run, but in a soundbite it sounded like a triple option. He kept explaining for years, but not aggresively enough, and nothing could take back the soundbite. Pretty soon us running a triple option was a talking point for every broadcaster doing games, its what high school coaches (who aren't always that smart nor engaged) heard, and heck even some of our own fans still think we were trying to run a "high school" triple option offense. It was a problem with perception far more than it was with reality, and it kept us from getting the talent necessary to run it leaving us, ironically, running something closer to what people imagined, and reinforcing the image.

Hopefully the new OC helps change that image regardless of if he changes a lot or a little from what CWF originally wanted to do


Unfortunately he has said it many more times publicly since that initial quote. He continued to say it at times in interviews this season. We were all hoping he recognized the damage it causes but to this point he hasn't stopped using the term.


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WaveProf wrote:
It's a lot of factors, but I think the biggest one was CWF misspeaking in his first interview about his offense, then not being aggressive enough in knocking it down afterwards. In total context, it was clear what he wanted to run, but in a soundbite it sounded like a triple option. He kept explaining for years, but not aggresively enough, and nothing could take back the soundbite. Pretty soon us running a triple option was a talking point for every broadcaster doing games, its what high school coaches (who aren't always that smart nor engaged) heard, and heck even some of our own fans still think we were trying to run a "high school" triple option offense. It was a problem with perception far more than it was with reality, and it kept us from getting the talent necessary to run it leaving us, ironically, running something closer to what people imagined, and reinforcing the image.

Hopefully the new OC helps change that image regardless of if he changes a lot or a little from what CWF originally wanted to do


Unfortunately he has said it many more times publicly since that initial quote. He continued to say it at times in interviews this season. We were all hoping he recognized the damage it causes but to this point he hasn't stopped using the term.
The offense we put on the field is (has been) much more damaging than press conference quotes.


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