Pac 12 Realignment

[tulaneoutlaw]

McMurphy reporting smu and sdsu are being visited by the pac 12 commissioner. I would be surprised if they add teams before they get a TV deal but then again maybe those negotiations aren't going well.

[tjtlja]

Wonder who will replace SMU? Have we ever gotten one mention in any realignment discussion? SMU has won nothing in football, basketball, and they don’t play baseball. But I guess they have an ipf and football ops building.

[tulaneoutlaw]

Wonder who will replace SMU? Have we ever gotten one mention in any realignment discussion? SMU has won nothing in football, basketball, and they don’t play baseball. But I guess they have an ipf and football ops building.

And money to spend in a major metro area. They may need a travel partner. Maybe we will get mentioned then. We definitely were considered by b12 in prior waves, bit not the most recent one.

[WaveProf]

There were rumors in August it was a near-done deal that the Pac 12 was taking 2-4 teams out of Boise, SDSU, SMU, and Memphis, with SMU and SDSU being the frontrunners.

We certainly improved our position this year, but not by enough, particularly considering the timing, when those four all had a head start.

[MNAlum]

I think we jumped Memphis and are in if the go with 4. Beating USC has to help. Roll Wave!

[WaveProf]

I think we jumped Memphis and are in if the go with 4. Beating USC has to help. Roll Wave!

I doubt they take 4 before the tv contract. I do think they take 2.

[greenyalie]

I don’t get the infatuation with SMU just because they are in Dallas. SMU does not get you Dallas and they do not play baseball. I don’t get the economics but it seems we aren’t getting a look.

[GSx]

It's all about Dallas. SMU's teams aren't very good, except for soccer (which we don't have).
As for us, we have good coaches, but we haven't built the infrastructure, which is what we need. I'm not sure where our admin is on this. But what evidence is available, and it's not overwhelming, doesn't portend well.

[Baywave1]

Eventually PAC 12 will want more CTZ inventory. Just have to keep winning and hope USTA doesn’t do too much in meantime.

Be prepared for some 11am September home games for PAC 12 network telecasts

[WaveProf]

I don’t get the infatuation with SMU just because they are in Dallas. SMU does not get you Dallas and they do not play baseball. I don’t get the economics but it seems we aren’t getting a look.

Baseball is a non factor

[tjtlja]

It still sucks that our AD is not screaming to anyone that will listen that we belong in a P5. We are a sleeping giant given the recruiting base is LA, TX, and the south. So disappointed that we aren’t talking publicly to anyone that will listen. Dammit they should be able to sell this with the money a P5 will bring. The new AAC is crap. Someone at Tulane has to speak up now.

To hear SMU is being visited by the PAC 12 and we aren’t is ridiculous. They bring less to the table than we do. And please don’t tell anyone they bring the Dallas market. Not much interest in SMU sports in TX at all.

[Carolina Greenie]

Honestly I dont think either one of us brings anything than more mouths to feed at the trough of the conference tv deal.

If it’s about eyeballs- small private schools are hosed.

Honestly, what does Miami bring the ACC? Not much, outside of alums with money to burn.

I think our hope is to be competent when a vacancy arises and be viewed as a gift to the presidents and faculty (AAU) and to the Alumni (fun road trip)

But we have to be competent and competitive. Unless the b12 loses another two teams I think we are stuck waiting on Clemson and FSU bolting the ACC. At some point the money will be strong enough to poach.

I bet the NC legislature intervenes to keep UNC from leaving NC State, Duke and Wake behind. Not sure what the appetite for UVa alums are to bolt for the big 10, but my guess is it would be unpopular.

Tulane would be a cultural fit for an ACC without FSU. But not a moneymaker.

[tulaneoutlaw]

Having more teams would provide more inventory which might be part of what the Pac 12 is after. Dallas as a metro area is the big draw for SMU. Second is the fact they are willing to spend big to win.

We don't yet now what the split between programs will be (if SMU indeed gets the invite). Rutgers and Maryland took a few years before they started getting full Big 10 checks. I bet the same happens in future phases of realignment. New Pac 12 teams may not get what Oregon and Washington get. It wouldn't shock me if the ACC does something similar to try and keep Clemson and FSU happy down the line.

[PeteRasche]

All of this stuff is being decided by media companies now. It's almost not even worth postulating what's going on or why a league is taking some team. PAC has deals with Fox and ESPN and is also apparently in talks with Amazon. Who knows what their number-crunchers are telling them about which teams are desirable.

[Marathon Wave]

Wonder who will replace SMU? Have we ever gotten one mention in any realignment discussion? SMU has won nothing in football, basketball, and they don’t play baseball. But I guess they have an ipf and football ops building.

[nolasilver]

Wonder who will replace SMU? Have we ever gotten one mention in any realignment discussion? SMU has won nothing in football, basketball, and they don’t play baseball. But I guess they have an ipf and football ops building.

And are renovating and adding more Luxury boxes to the stadium.

[Luvs da Wave]

If indeed it is about television, the only thing that matters is the product on the field. A successful athletic program gets a better viewing audience. No one watches a team because it has a good ops building. I know that helps success, but it don't mean beans to the TV networks. Our season, especially winning the Cotton Bowl, means a whole lot more.

[ml wave]

Wonder who will replace SMU? Have we ever gotten one mention in any realignment discussion? SMU has won nothing in football, basketball, and they don’t play baseball. But I guess they have an ipf and football ops building.

I am also surprised that our two regionals in 12 years (or whatever it is) does not have P5s beating down our door. It's almost like baseball is not a factor at all in conference realignment.

[Baywave1]

I don’t get the infatuation with SMU just because they are in Dallas. SMU does not get you Dallas and they do not play baseball. I don’t get the economics but it seems we aren’t getting a look.

SMU has both men’s and women’s soccer. If it’s travel costs you want to rationalize, PAC 12 should add Tulsa which has both and no baseball.

[wavedom]

If indeed it is about television, the only thing that matters is the product on the field. A successful athletic program gets a better viewing audience. No one watches a team because it has a good ops building. I know that helps success, but it don't mean beans to the TV networks. Our season, especially winning the Cotton Bowl, means a whole lot more.

To have that sustained success that would draw people to view your games on a regular basis you need that good ops. building. Trying to downplay the necessity for facilities will only contribute to us backsliding rather than being the program we all hope for.

[LawGreenie]

Shouting "let's us in" rarely works. But I will note that baseball spends about 40% of the pre-conference in the western time zones, and every one of our Olympic sports made a west coast trip this year.

I think the PAC 12 is not that far from where the Big East was when we were briefly a member of that conference. It isn't stable at all, but they they offered a chair at the table, I wouldn't turn it down.

[kevinv]

It sure doesn't hurt that we beat one of their premier teams on a big stage and they saw a huge crowd of green in the stands.

[nolasilver]

True. I will say if SMU goes, I don’t think we replace them. I think that’s why there was the large expansion with unt, utsa and rice. Big markets and covers texas. Fau added to replace Ucf and Florida.

[windywave]

It still sucks that our AD is not screaming to anyone that will listen that we belong in a P5. We are a sleeping giant given the recruiting base is LA, TX, and the south. So disappointed that we aren’t talking publicly to anyone that will listen. Dammit they should be able to sell this with the money a P5 will bring. The new AAC is crap. Someone at Tulane has to speak up now.

To hear SMU is being visited by the PAC 12 and we aren’t is ridiculous. They bring less to the table than we do. And please don’t tell anyone they bring the Dallas market. Not much interest in SMU sports in TX at all.

Have you ever spoken to Troy? I am talking a meaningful conversation. You're post is deluded nonsense

[tjtlja]

Nice to see you in a good mood. Refreshing!