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We obvi drop out. The Q is how close we stay. I would have said we’d need a closer score to stay close but now it’s a huge question mark. Did they watch the game? How many points for Pratt do we get? I wouldn’t be surprised if we are #27 or #37. Will be interesting
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Hard to say but there writers who didn't have us in the top 25 going in to this game - we probably won't find our way back in until (if) we are 5-1.
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Polls?

Polls?

Let's worry about them at end of year.
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Marathon Wave wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:50 pm Polls?

Polls?

Let's worry about them at end of year.
They matter for getting to where we want to be at the end of the year. That’s just reality rather we like it or not
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WaveProf wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:51 pm
Marathon Wave wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:50 pm Polls?

Polls?

Let's worry about them at end of year.
They matter for getting to where we want to be at the end of the year. That’s just reality rather we like it or not
How? We did pretty good, poll-wise, last year. Didn't even get in till late.
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Marathon Wave wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:54 pm
WaveProf wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:51 pm
Marathon Wave wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:50 pm Polls?

Polls?

Let's worry about them at end of year.
They matter for getting to where we want to be at the end of the year. That’s just reality rather we like it or not
How? We did pretty good, poll-wise, last year. Didn't even get in till late.
Last year our conference was several steps ahead of the other G5 competition
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My first thought was we drop a ton because voters don't pay attention. Then my second thought was that we'll clearly be able to see which ones pay attention based on how they vote us. Anyone who watched that game would likely have us 25.
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PeteRasche wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:58 pm My first thought was we drop a ton because voters don't pay attention. Then my second thought was that we'll clearly be able to see which ones pay attention based on how they vote us. Anyone who watched that game would likely have us 25.
On the ESPN scroll, it mentions: that they had to come back, we held them to 1-13 on 3rd down, and that Pratt DNP. The last one is probably the most important. If we go 11-1 then this loss will have been forgotten.
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Win the next 3 or so and we'll be back in. Last year we didn't even get into the polls until before or after ECU.
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FW wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:49 pm Win the next 3 or so and we'll be back in. Last year we didn't even get into the polls until before or after ECU.
But that was because of the KSU win and KSU doing surprisingly well in the Big 12 after losing to us. This year we won't have that.

There are some stupid things going on tonight but the biggest is that most of the AAC looks really bad.

SMU hanging with Oklahoma. They could be competition. App State in OT with UNC and UNC just failed the 2pt conversion. If they pull it out, they'll likely jump into the polls.
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PeteRasche wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:55 pm
FW wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:49 pm Win the next 3 or so and we'll be back in. Last year we didn't even get into the polls until before or after ECU.
But that was because of the KSU win and KSU doing surprisingly well in the Big 12 after losing to us. This year we won't have that.

There are some stupid things going on tonight but the biggest is that most of the AAC looks really bad.

SMU hanging with Oklahoma. They could be competition. App State in OT with UNC and UNC just failed the 2pt conversion. If they pull it out, they'll likely jump into the polls.
We lost to USM after KSU, which basically counteracted that. We'll be back in in a couple of weeks.
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If anyone cares, I started a non-Tulane, non-AAC thread in the non-Tulane forum. There's a lot of wacky stuff going on right now, if it all holds this will be a crazy week (or if some of the power teams barely beating cupcakes actually lose).
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PeteRasche wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:58 pm My first thought was we drop a ton because voters don't pay attention. Then my second thought was that we'll clearly be able to see which ones pay attention based on how they vote us. Anyone who watched that game would likely have us 25.
I fully agree Pete, but we know they all can't watch all the games. Question is how diligent are they at research?
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So....
#3 lost to #11
#19 lost to unranked
#23 lost to unranked


We shouldn't drop too far.
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Marathon Wave wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:17 am
PeteRasche wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:58 pm My first thought was we drop a ton because voters don't pay attention. Then my second thought was that we'll clearly be able to see which ones pay attention based on how they vote us. Anyone who watched that game would likely have us 25.
I fully agree Pete, but we know they all can't watch all the games. Question is how diligent are they at research?
I don't think they're diligent at watching but they might - might - read the AP newswire story, which does at least talk about Pratt being out, about us playing even (or better) for 3+ quarters nonetheless, and indicates Pratt will be back soon.

I do think we'll still get some votes, at least from the local reporters, I'd hope.

The best thing that happened yesterday was non-AAC teams that could be potential NY6 competition, based on name only (Boise, App State, etc.) got beat. Boise is 0-2 so they're likely done. App State doesn't play anyone else of note. SDSU got spanked. Maybe the only non-AAC name left undefeated is Marshall (they have Virginia Tech and NC State so those will determine their fate). Liberty is 2-0 but plays absolutely nobody. If we win out we should absolutely get the spot because the only competition is likely from teams we will play head-to-head.
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PeteRasche wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:37 am
I do think we'll still get some votes, at least from the local reporters, I'd hope.

There's no question we'll get some votes IMO

If this is viewed as a super close game with a backup QB, we are sitting around 27 and back in in about 2 weeks.

If this is viewed as 37-17 with no context we are sitting around #35. and not back in until week 5 or 6.

Both were possible outcomes before the game but the way it went down (a final score not indicative of the game) leaves it TBA when the polls come out today.

If I were wagering money, I'd be closer to FW's timeline than Pete's. But we'll know more in a few hours
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I'd be very surprised if we're as high as 27. That would mean (barring a few people having us in the teens) that nearly half of the voters had us still ranked. The voters don't submit "also receiving votes" votes. To be 27 we'd need quite a few voters who really paid attention to us yesterday. And they'd also need to have been very impressed with Ole Miss (they wouldn't keep us in the poll at all unless they had Ole Miss quite higher than us)...and I tend to think lots of voters keep Ole Miss down because they dislike Lane Kiffin. :lol:
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PeteRasche wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:08 am I'd be very surprised if we're as high as 27. That would mean (barring a few people having us in the teens) that nearly half of the voters had us still ranked. The voters don't submit "also receiving votes" votes. To be 27 we'd need quite a few voters who really paid attention to us yesterday. And they'd also need to have been very impressed with Ole Miss (they wouldn't keep us in the poll at all unless they had Ole Miss quite higher than us)...and I tend to think lots of voters keep Ole Miss down because they dislike Lane Kiffin. :lol:
Yes Pete, we know how they count the votes :angel:


FWIW I'd be surprised with 27 because I'd be surprised if enough know the details of our game to think of it as a one score game. But if I'm wrong about *that* then 27 is possible.
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PeteRasche wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:37 am
Marathon Wave wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:17 am
PeteRasche wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:58 pm My first thought was we drop a ton because voters don't pay attention. Then my second thought was that we'll clearly be able to see which ones pay attention based on how they vote us. Anyone who watched that game would likely have us 25.
I fully agree Pete, but we know they all can't watch all the games. Question is how diligent are they at research?
I don't think they're diligent at watching but they might - might - read the AP newswire story, which does at least talk about Pratt being out, about us playing even (or better) for 3+ quarters nonetheless, and indicates Pratt will be back soon.

I do think we'll still get some votes, at least from the local reporters, I'd hope.

The best thing that happened yesterday was non-AAC teams that could be potential NY6 competition, based on name only (Boise, App State, etc.) got beat. Boise is 0-2 so they're likely done. App State doesn't play anyone else of note. SDSU got spanked. Maybe the only non-AAC name left undefeated is Marshall (they have Virginia Tech and NC State so those will determine their fate). Liberty is 2-0 but plays absolutely nobody. If we win out we should absolutely get the spot because the only competition is likely from teams we will play head-to-head.
We'll get votes for sure. It was all over the TV coverage before the game about Pratt not playing so they know. Where we are now is hunting style points. We can win the next 2 with Horton/Ibieta if Pratt is out and we can win them big. The question is does Willie have it in him to do that.
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Summarizing much of the above. Tulane still controls its NY6 fate

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Baywave1 wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:55 am Summarizing much of the above. Tulane still controls its NY6 fate

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Can't let Ole Miss beat us twice
I prefer 2-1, but I'm with you on sentiment. If we stay focused, we'll be in a lot better spot come season's end than Ole Miss
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Just surfing, came across this:
But plenty more transpired on a wild Saturday in college football.

In the upset category, Rice — Rice! — beat Houston, Washington State beat No. 19 Wisconsin and Southern Illinois toppled Northern Illinois in the first FCS-over-FBS result of the year.

There were some great escapes. Ole Miss barely pulled out a victory at Tulane,
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33rd (if you count that way) in the coaches, with 16 votes. So smack in the middle of what I guessed was the possible range. I'll be honest, I anticipated being lower OR higher (more likely lower) not in the middle.

Fresno State 31st (if you count that way), only G5 team ahead of us. Only other G5 even getting votes are Wyoming (44th), Air Force (46th), Memphis (48th), and JMU (50th)

Anticipate being a bit lower in AP but who knows. As already discussed in this thread, yesterday throws curveballs into what is typically fairly easy to predict polling.

Ole Miss moved up a spot to 19.
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PeteRasche wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:37 am
Marathon Wave wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:17 am
PeteRasche wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:58 pm My first thought was we drop a ton because voters don't pay attention. Then my second thought was that we'll clearly be able to see which ones pay attention based on how they vote us. Anyone who watched that game would likely have us 25.
I fully agree Pete, but we know they all can't watch all the games. Question is how diligent are they at research?
I don't think they're diligent at watching but they might - might - read the AP newswire story, which does at least talk about Pratt being out, about us playing even (or better) for 3+ quarters nonetheless, and indicates Pratt will be back soon.

I do think we'll still get some votes, at least from the local reporters, I'd hope.

The best thing that happened yesterday was non-AAC teams that could be potential NY6 competition, based on name only (Boise, App State, etc.) got beat. Boise is 0-2 so they're likely done. App State doesn't play anyone else of note. SDSU got spanked. Maybe the only non-AAC name left undefeated is Marshall (they have Virginia Tech and NC State so those will determine their fate). Liberty is 2-0 but plays absolutely nobody. If we win out we should absolutely get the spot because the only competition is likely from teams we will play head-to-head.
Thanks for that out of conf research, Pete. I just looked at AAC games, and was surprised with Rice beating UH. And don't know nuthin' about TxSt, but UTSA certainly didn't stomp them down.
Indeed, we win out, we'll get the NY6 nod.
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