Tulane survives UAB: 35-23 final

[OGSB]

Well then i guess you’re also giving Tulane another TD for its lost fumble in red zone

Fair is fair

If we are talking about how best to evaluate our performance, then I'm not really sure that is fair at all. Getting lucky on a fumble we did nothing to cause counts against our defense, and fumbling away a chance to score counts against our offense. Luckily, we were enough better than UAB that it didn't matter.

UAB at least helped cause our fumble.

[WaveProf]

UAB at least helped cause our fumble.

Yes, for sure.

[waverider]

But the defense did play into the fumble. He was stuffed and wasn’t going to score and it’s because the push from the DL put his OL in his throat.

[Baywave1]

UAB at least helped cause our fumble.

Yes, for sure.

Gents, you’re trying too hard here. Turnovers near goal line cost points for both teams. Period.

If you want to credit Tulane defense, let’s remember the fumble occurred on the second sneak from the one. Tulane stuffed the first one as well. Defense deserves recognition for not quitting when UAB had a first down on the one and a very high probability of scoring.

This may only happen once every few seasons but it captures essence of 1-0. Give your absolute best on every play and eventually you will be rewarded for it

[wavedom]

Grubbs played 1 series before coaches thought he wasn’t moving well enough and pines didn’t play. That’s two big starters

This bye week is truly at a perfect time

so Pines was out the whole game? I didn't know if he started and got hurt.. Hurst has bulked up a lot since last year. Remetich got hurt late too, we finished the game with 2nd string guards on the line. Remetich said on the Twit that he's OK.

Remetich came back in and finished the game.

[waverider]

Rewatching the game, and normally I like to listen to what the commentators are saying, but I don’t know how anyone did this for an entire game. I skip through a lot of it but these guys sound like the 11am, 1-3 team playing crew I expected.

[Marathon Wave]

Has anyone seen Fritz do anything close to this?

https://www.si.com/college/2023/09/30/u ... ed-penalty

[Poseidon]

Has anyone seen Fritz do anything close to this?

https://www.si.com/college/2023/09/30/u ... ed-penalty

I was about 20 rows from it.

That said, I have seen Saban do that multiple times and multiple other successful respected coaches.

Whether you are stoic or on a tirade it all needs context of the culture and relationship to players and staff.

In a normal business setting or almost anywhere else this would be grossly uncivilized. That said there football field is an exception. The Intensity out there is a different world.

[tjtlja]

How was the crowd yesterday in the stadium? For the first time, a buddy of mine mentioned how bad the remainder of the schedule is for the rest of the year. I look at UCF and Cinncy and really envy their schedules. However, I know those teams, including Houston, will have unacceptable win/loss records this year.

I watched the Cinncy game against BYU and was surprised the young QB we faced last (Prather) is now a WR. Thought he had a lot of potential.

[Baywave1]

It was hot to unbearably hot. TV may require 11am kickoffs but you can’t require fans to show up when only menu options are bake or broil Snow balls were good though

Tulane will sell out Homecoming in a few weeks. No great expectations for November home game’s attendance. Probably like yesterday I assume if Tulane hosts AAC Champ game again in December, it should sellout.

[wavedom]

How was the crowd yesterday in the stadium? For the first time, a buddy of mine mentioned how bad the remainder of the schedule is for the rest of the year. I look at UCF and Cinncy and really envy their schedules. However, I know those teams, including Houston, will have unacceptable win/loss records this year.

I watched the Cinncy game against BYU and was surprised the young QB we faced last (Prather) is now a WR. Thought he had a lot of potential.

Lots of empty seats. Looked like less than 10,000. TV rules but 11 is a bad start time in this party city. Throw in blistering heat and and blah opponent and can't be surprised at the crowd. If we want people back we need to handle Memphis and whip their butts to get the fans attention again.

[2palmer0]

Has anyone seen Fritz do anything close to this?

https://www.si.com/college/2023/09/30/u ... ed-penalty

I was about 20 rows from it.

That said, I have seen Saban do that multiple times and multiple other successful respected coaches.

Whether you are stoic or on a tirade it all needs context of the culture and relationship to players and staff.

In a normal business setting or almost anywhere else this would be grossly uncivilized. That said there football field is an exception. The Intensity out there is a different world.

I've seen coaches yelling but that was next level. I thought he was going to hit the assistant, it looked like he took a half-swing. I really thought we were watching Dilfer's career end in real time.

[2palmer0]

On offense we did something that we’ve tried before: coming out passing versus a weak rushing defense. We did that under Hall at East Carolina. When we went run heavy we crushed them. The execution wasn’t really there in the pass game yesterday. On the missed FG drive we had a good call on third down, the receiver ran a good route but Mike threw it at his feet. Thank goodness Mike was on the money for his last two throws.

Other than the return of Bauman to prominence the emergence of Yulkeith Brown is heartening. Having three scary threats in the jet sweep game will help Hughes pop some runs.

I didn’t get the same vibe from the refs that some of you got. I did notice that on the late hit on Deal it seemed the head guy and one other crew member gave the flag-tossing guy an extended “are you sure” session but he dug in. I’d need to see the game over again to see about all the holding but that might explain some of UAB’s success.

The refs were BAD. The ESPN announcers spent a lot of the game talking about how bad they were and noticeably clipped themselves a few times seemingly questioning whether they should or shouldn't be calling them out that much. I can't remember specifics at this point but it seemed like there were a few bad calls that went against UAB towards the end. Through the first half to three quarters it really did seem like they were out to get Tulane though. The late hit call on Deal was GARBAGE and I'd have him make that play 10 times out of 10.

[WaveProf]

Has anyone seen Fritz do anything close to this?

https://www.si.com/college/2023/09/30/u ... ed-penalty

I was about 20 rows from it.

That said, I have seen Saban do that multiple times and multiple other successful respected coaches.

Whether you are stoic or on a tirade it all needs context of the culture and relationship to players and staff.

In a normal business setting or almost anywhere else this would be grossly uncivilized. That said there football field is an exception. The Intensity out there is a different world.

I’ve seen Sanan do it and think he looks like an a$$clown every time. But at least he wins to back it up. Folder is simply a clown.

[GretnaGrn]

I sure hope this is our last 11am start. Crowd was the weakest all season, including the students. Team sleptwalked through much of the first half. Thankfully, we adjusted at halftime and played better in the second half.

Good to get a win when you aren't at your best, but that's two weeks in a row of that now. We need to play to our ability against Memphis.

[Poseidon]

Has anyone seen Fritz do anything close to this?

https://www.si.com/college/2023/09/30/u ... ed-penalty

I was about 20 rows from it.

That said, I have seen Saban do that multiple times and multiple other successful respected coaches.

Whether you are stoic or on a tirade it all needs context of the culture and relationship to players and staff.

In a normal business setting or almost anywhere else this would be grossly uncivilized. That said there football field is an exception. The Intensity out there is a different world.

I’ve seen Sanan do it and think he looks like an a$$clown every time. But at least he wins to back it up. Folder is simply a clown.

Yelling is not really my personality. So I'm not defending my thing. However it is not wrong.

Where do you draw the line? Why? Is is ok for:
Player v Player
Team leader player v player
coach v player
strength coach v player
coach v coach

The main thing is knowing who is doing the yelling and who is being yelled at. Some people have anger issues and try to resolve problems with yelling devaluing the appropriate use of yelling and also possibly using it to intimidate others indiscriminately. Some other people nearly all yelling as a threat or intimidation and handle anger by others dysfunctionally.

So its almost always a question of individual interpersonal relationships.

[WaveProf]

Poseidon, it's not the yelling, it's the combined effect of yelling *uncontrollably* and in public. Particularly for a head coach who should know better. Yell, sure, its football. If its even worse, take him somewhere private. If you can't control yourself to not humiliate, and more importantly, cut off the credibility of a coach at the knees, in front of god, everyone, AND that position coach's own players, then one doesn't have the temperament or intelligence to be a HC. Some can end around this (Saban) because they are SO good they it causes buy in from everyone around them, including the players watching and the coach being yelled at, but that's a risky move, and one that only even *might* pay off if you are Nick Saban good

[Marathon Wave]

Has anyone seen Fritz do anything close to this?

https://www.si.com/college/2023/09/30/u ... ed-penalty

I was about 20 rows from it.

That said, I have seen Saban do that multiple times and multiple other successful respected coaches.

Whether you are stoic or on a tirade it all needs context of the culture and relationship to players and staff.

In a normal business setting or almost anywhere else this would be grossly uncivilized. That said there football field is an exception. The Intensity out there is a different world.

For me, he seemed to be running around looking for someone to yell at. Completely out of control. If I'm one of those coaches, I'm looking at openings elsewhere. That's just me. Don't need, on top of inherent pressure, the idea in the back of my head that this can happen any time during a game. My family gets to see me getting reamed out.

[Marathon Wave]

It was hot to unbearably hot. TV may require 11am kickoffs but you can’t require fans to show up when only menu options are bake or broil Snow balls were good though

Tulane will sell out Homecoming in a few weeks. No great expectations for November home game’s attendance. Probably like yesterday I assume if Tulane hosts AAC Champ game again in December, it should sellout.

For me, it wasn't bad. Not 3 o'clock in August bad. I wasn't wearing any clothing you would call "wicking" and still didn't sweat much. Was on TU's side in sun entire game.

[Marathon Wave]

How was the crowd yesterday in the stadium? For the first time, a buddy of mine mentioned how bad the remainder of the schedule is for the rest of the year. I look at UCF and Cinncy and really envy their schedules. However, I know those teams, including Houston, will have unacceptable win/loss records this year.

I watched the Cinncy game against BYU and was surprised the young QB we faced last (Prather) is now a WR. Thought he had a lot of potential.

Lots of empty seats. Looked like less than 10,000. TV rules but 11 is a bad start time in this party city. Throw in blistering heat and and blah opponent and cant be surprised at the crowd. If we want people back we need to handle Memphis and whip their butts to get the fans attention again.

Quite empty. About 5 rows of students. I don't think the rest woke up until possibly when Pratt threw our last TD.

[WaveProf]

Quite empty. About 5 rows of students. I don't think the rest woke up until possibly when Pratt threw our last TD.

In the first quarter maybe. The student section filled in to a respectable % by the second quarter. The stadium overall, however, remained pretty empty. 11am isnt ideal

[Baywave1]

It was hot to unbearably hot. TV may require 11am kickoffs but you can’t require fans to show up when only menu options are bake or broil Snow balls were good though

Tulane will sell out Homecoming in a few weeks. No great expectations for November home game’s attendance. Probably like yesterday I assume if Tulane hosts AAC Champ game again in December, it should sellout.

For me, it wasn't bad. Not 3 o'clock in August bad. I wasn't wearing any clothing you would call "wicking" and still didn't sweat much. Was on TU's side in sun entire game.

Agree it wasn’t August hot. No one had heat stroke that I saw. Only one or two timeouts for players cramping. Snowballs were concessionaire of choice though.

Regardless it was uncomfortable for this seasoned citizen and i did look at watch regularly looking for a conclusion

[Marathon Wave]

On offense we did something that we’ve tried before: coming out passing versus a weak rushing defense. We did that under Hall at East Carolina. When we went run heavy we crushed them. The execution wasn’t really there in the pass game yesterday. On the missed FG drive we had a good call on third down, the receiver ran a good route but Mike threw it at his feet. Thank goodness Mike was on the money for his last two throws.

Other than the return of Bauman to prominence the emergence of Yulkeith Brown is heartening. Having three scary threats in the jet sweep game will help Hughes pop some runs.

I didn’t get the same vibe from the refs that some of you got. I did notice that on the late hit on Deal it seemed the head guy and one other crew member gave the flag-tossing guy an extended “are you sure” session but he dug in. I’d need to see the game over again to see about all the holding but that might explain some of UAB’s success.

The refs were BAD. The ESPN announcers spent a lot of the game talking about how bad they were and noticeably clipped themselves a few times seemingly questioning whether they should or shouldn't be calling them out that much. I can't remember specifics at this point but it seemed like there were a few bad calls that went against UAB towards the end. Through the first half to three quarters it really did seem like they were out to get Tulane though. The late hit call on Deal was GARBAGE and I'd have him make that play 10 times out of 10.

If Deal doesn't go in and make that play, I'm on him in locker room. It was a good play. Don't give them an inch.

[Roller]

Poseidon, it's not the yelling, it's the combined effect of yelling *uncontrollably* and in public. Particularly for a head coach who should know better. Yell, sure, its football. If its even worse, take him somewhere private. If you can't control yourself to not humiliate, and more importantly, cut off the credibility of a coach at the knees, in front of god, everyone, AND that position coach's own players, then one doesn't have the temperament or intelligence to be a HC. Some can end around this (Saban) because they are SO good they it causes buy in from everyone around them, including the players watching and the coach being yelled at, but that's a risky move, and one that only even *might* pay off if you are Nick Saban good

This.
A basic tenet of leadership is that you "Praise in public, punish in private. "
I believe CWF has too much class and too much self-control to behave that way.

[DCGreenie]

Dilfer lowered himself into the uncivil mire with that tirade. The ghost of Woody Hayes lives on.....