Enough is Enough. Barrios‘ Time is Past. Give Hudak the job.

[QuarterbackU]

It had been a year since I had to listen to the Green Wave while on the road (miracle of satellite radio). I had to catch most of the 2nd Half today on the road.

I have never been a Steve Barrios fan before because of his moaning and groaning on radio BUT TG is my favorite of all time - so I could figure it out.

Somehow Barrios has gotten worse, absolutely tough listen when he chimes in. We named the radio booth after him last year - now is the time to break the news that we are going another direction.

Give Maddy Hudak the opportunity. She sounds professional and prepared. And is not a doom cloud of groaning and moaning for 12 Saturdays a year.

[WaveProf]

Yes. If not, kick out katengell yamming it up, and things of that nature, weekday afternoons.

The fact that Hudack is having to scrape together a living with minor jobs is ridiculous. She’s the most professional coverage we’ve had post Katrina aside from Graff abd, arguably, Gloor

[PeteRasche]

I will say though QBU, you did pick a bad performance by Tulane on which to judge. He's a lot more tolerable when we're winning, which we've been doing more than not recently.

But yeah, when we're miserably losing, Barrios is depressing. Of course so was Graf.

[Wandering Quaker]

The program still has a lot work on. Professional broadcasting is on the list. I hope.

[WaveProf]

so was Graf.

Graf was depressing at times, but I don't want my broadcaster to be a company man either, and he was super up as much as he was super down, it balanced. And, at very least, he sounded more like a professional broadcaster for football than a lot of professionals. Always found it odd he made his bbig break to NBA, basketball was, at Tulane, the sport I thought he was worst at.

[GSx]

Maddie should be PBPing women's hoops. It would be nice to internally develop our next PBP person once Gloor leaves (which he will; he's very good).
I also don't know what Prof is referencing re Kattengill, but, whatever it is, Maddie should be doing that too.

[WaveProf]

I also don't know what Prof is referencing re Kattengill, but, whatever it is, Maddie should be doing that too.

Katengell hosts a 3 hour sports radio show every weekday locally in which he mostly hams it up and talks about how much he likes rebecca black's friday song and offers really uninsightful sports analysis and finishes every other sentence with "and things of that nature"

[QuarterbackU]

I will say though QBU, you did pick a bad performance by Tulane on which to judge. He's a lot more tolerable when we're winning, which we've been doing more than not recently.

I tuned in after Tulane had scored 14 in a row to take the lead. Barrios’ curmudgeon tone should have been much lighter at that point BUT it wasn’t.

Gloor is very good and absolutely has his options elsewhere. I am sure he’s a nice guy but he must hate having to “carry the antique piano on his back” of navigating around Barrios’ grunts/moans/lack of any new insight during the game.

[Wavemania]

Waveprof, don't know what your beef is with Gus, but I enjoy his show. Tuesdays he goes around La area and has college coaches talk about the game they had that week. If you don't like him, change the channel. he must be doing something right cuz he has been on the air for over 10 years

[Baywave1]

Hudak is good. Give her more air time.

Only person more depressed than TG when Tulane was losing bad was Hawk Harrelson calling losing White Sox games. That’s why they call them homers

[Luvs da Wave]

Steve Barrios was a classmate of mine. A great player who knows the game. Why would you want a color analyst who never played?

[QuarterbackU]

Steve Barrios was a classmate of mine. A great player who knows the game. Why would you want a color analyst who never played?

Did you listen to the broadcast today? Please tell me what you thought was insightful that he added to it. One memorable blurb/stat/story? Anything.

[WaveProf]

Why would you want a color analyst who never played?

Because hudak is better than 90% of the “journalists” who played.

[atxwave]

I love Maddie...she's very intelligent and does a great job. I don't know what experience she may have doing pbp so I think calling women's basketball is likely a non-starter. I do agree that I would love to see her increase her responsibilities but I hardly think she's a color commentator for our broadcasts. You definitely want someone who has experience on the field to compliment the pbp broadcaster.

[doncecco]

A clear sign our program is at a different place if the biggest thing we are debating is replacing our radio color commentator!!

[PeteRasche]

Why would you want a color analyst who never played?

Because Mandy hudack is better than 90% of the “journalists” who played.

Wow, you love her so much, you got both of her names wrong!

[WaveProf]

I love Maddie...she's very intelligent and does a great job. I don't know what experience she may have doing pbp so I think calling women's basketball is likely a non-starter. I do agree that I would love to see her increase her responsibilities but I hardly think she's a color commentator for our broadcasts. You definitely want someone who has experience on the field to compliment the pbp broadcaster.

How do you get play by play experience if you don't start somewhere, so I don't see how not having experience precludes her from doing play by play for women's basketball, the radio'd sport the least people listen to. Heck, they let Katengell call those games, it can't get much worse. My biggest problem with the start-her-on-women's-basketball logic is that it seems pretty patronizing, not to mention it doesn't address our football problems.

As for experience on the field as color, that's certainly the conventional wisdom, and I'd point around the reality that 80%+ of them are unbearable to listen to. The best ones, are great, and their on field experiences are invaluable. And those guys are doing big national broadcasts or, rarely, sticking around their alma mater or an NFL team. The other 80% are struggling to figure out what the heck they are supposed to do behind a microphone every week for years until they eventually get replaced by a new, former player. So, in the end, it leaves me asking, how essential is having someone with "onfield experience" really in the end? It's nice, when you can have it. But I think it's far from essential. If anything we've swung too far in the last couple of decades toward sometimes having *both* guys in the booth be former players.


And look, I don't really think Barios is going anwhere so the primary point is moot. But the idea that we need to be doing something to get Hudak full time employment so she sticks around is paramount. There's going to be an opening where we *need* her at some point, so letting her be everyone's favorite guest interview on the radio while she struggles to pay her bills, largely because she's a woman, needs to be addressed. My goodness, the Baton Rouge guys fall over themselves to have her as a guest or even guest host, and that would be unthinkable for most people with her profile. She's good. Everyone knows it. But no one is interesting in kicking out dead weight (Katengell) or past its expiration date people to make room. And then they're gonna miss her when she's gone.

[WaveProf]

Wow, you love her so much, you got both of her names wrong!

Shut up Patty.

[MattK]

You definitely want someone who has experience on the field to compliment the pbp broadcaster.

As long as they are knowledgeable about the game, I don’t think playing experience is a prerequisite for the job.

I think there’s a long list of analysts who have experience on the field and are terrible at their jobs.

[PeteRasche]

I think there’s a long list of analysts who have experience on the field and are terrible at their jobs.

Oh my goodness yes.

BTW anyone catch the Jesus comment during the Ole Miss-LSU game last night, on LSU's second-to-last possession? Pretty inappropriate/sacriligious, I thought...

[StPeteWave]

I think there’s a long list of analysts who have experience on the field and are terrible at their jobs.

Oh my goodness yes.

BTW anyone catch the Jesus comment during the Ole Miss-LSU game last night, on LSU's second-to-last possession? Pretty inappropriate/sacriligious, I thought...

PLUS 1.

[WaveProf]

I was watching that drive but didn't notice what was said. Care to fill us in? RG3 we are talking about?

I did notice on LSU's touchdown that should have been called back the play by play guy fully explains that the question was if he had control of the ball or not because it was clear the first foot was in, only to have RG3 player-splain to him that in college you only need one foot in and he clearly had one foot in, all before eventually changing around in his own voice as he watches the replay (as if the play by play guy had never said it) that there might be a question of if he had possession of the football before he was out of bounds.

[waverider]

I think there’s a long list of analysts who have experience on the field and are terrible at their jobs.

Oh my goodness yes.

BTW anyone catch the Jesus comment during the Ole Miss-LSU game last night, on LSU's second-to-last possession? Pretty inappropriate/sacriligious, I thought...

I thought it was an odd comment but told my wife that I didn’t think anyone should be offended regardless of which side you are on. Unfortunately, being offended is the in-thing so religious and non-religious alike were able to unite in offense last night

[PeteRasche]

Prof, on a play where Daniels scrambled right and got chased down, he started cutting upfield and the Ole Miss defense ganged up on him. His progress was mostly stopped but he was still moving a little forward (being pushed too). In the middle of the crowd of players, the defenders basically then lifted him up off the ground so he couldn't use his own legs to push. So it was this visual of a large group of people lifting the guy in the middle up. RG3 said something like "and they lift him up like he's Jesus and they're gonna hang him on the cross".

Rider, I'm not super sensitive (I'm not writing letters to ESPN to get him fired) but there are things you just don't say in calling a sporting event, and equating a player to Jesus or referencing anything about the crucifixion are two of them. Just like you don't compare teams to, you know, Nazis, or coaches to Hitler, or reference any religious or political leaders, whatever. Forget wokeness and modern political spins, it's just not appropriate.

I don't watch/listen to sports talk and my Twitter feed is pretty curated to where I don't get stuff I don't want, but I found myself immediately thinking, "oh, that's gonna blow up on social media." I have no idea if it has.

[WaveProf]

I completely agree its an inappropriate, or maybe more relevant to this thread, unprofessional comment, though I'll *also* add that that twitter account that matches random photos from college football to images from art history could likely make the connection and everyone would think it funny. Though, I suppose, in a way that also helps make your point......context matters.


PS: I remember that play clearly, and remember thinking it was a stark image, but I don't remember any of the commentary, which says something about how much I've learned to tune out the announcers on ESPN games. We even keep the volume moderately low.